Please do not conflate freedom/reopen movement with antivax

Please do not conflate freedom/reopen movement with antivax

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    Please do not conflate freedom/reopen movement with antivax

    I just watched a short segment about protesters in Michigan. While I am absolutely for protest, and I do think that we may be reaching a point where protesting while armed may be understood as a declaration of willingness to defend your freedoms, can we please not get the 2A community again conflated with the antivax crowd. "Vaccinate deez nutz", really? While wearing a plate carrier with an AR? During a pandemic. $*@& me, I want a vaccine YESTERDAY. I know we all want freedom, and I don't think we should force people to get vaccines. But can we please not be stupid and actually make decisions based on reality and risk vs benefit assessments, as opposed to insane youtube videos? No, Bill Gates did not create Covid19 to give you a shot to anally violate you at will... The Gates foundation had actually given billions to treat and research diseases that the Western world couldn't care much about. Say what you will, but he's the epitome of a capitalist putting his money where his mouth is. He actually committed more money to fixing this disaster than our freaking government.

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    Do a search of the Dorr brothers, and many things start to make much more sense...
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    ^^^^^ Bravo to both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Do a search of the Dorr brothers, and many things start to make much more sense...
    Reading about it makes me think that this AstroTurf is a giant false flag operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    Reading about it makes me think that this AstroTurf is a giant false flag operation.
    They worked hard in Ohio to undermine our two state pro-gun groups, as well as the NRA.
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    ^^^ or mere greed ?

    Or worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    I just watched a short segment about protesters in Michigan. While I am absolutely for protest, and I do think that we may be reaching a point where protesting while armed may be understood as a declaration of willingness to defend your freedoms, can we please not get the 2A community again conflated with the antivax crowd. "Vaccinate deez nutz", really? While wearing a plate carrier with an AR? During a pandemic. $*@& me, I want a vaccine YESTERDAY. I know we all want freedom, and I don't think we should force people to get vaccines. But can we please not be stupid and actually make decisions based on reality and risk vs benefit assessments, as opposed to insane youtube videos? No, Bill Gates did not create Covid19 to give you a shot to anally violate you at will... The Gates foundation had actually given billions to treat and research diseases that the Western world couldn't care much about. Say what you will, but he's the epitome of a capitalist putting his money where his mouth is. He actually committed more money to fixing this disaster than our freaking government.
    I agree w much of what you write, GNIUS.

    I'm anything but antivax, I get yearly flu shots, I've had the pneumonia shots and a couple of very fine shingle shots. I even get allergy shots every few weeks. Shots are me.

    That said, I do not trust Jeffrey Epstein buddy Bill Gates. I do not trust the idea of vaccines for novel viruses, especially ones that have a high frequency of mutation. We need much more info.

    I tend to think that the solution to the corona virus problem is hiding in plain sight, with prohost nutritional supplements (curcumin, vitamin D, C, and others.)

    That's just me. Anyone who wants the vaccine gets support from me. Hopefully my reluctance to join them will see equal support.

    Thanks for a post on an important topic.

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    Im not an anti-vaxer by any means. In fact, overall im strongly in favor of vaccines. However, if someone wanted to create a whole new batch of anti-vaxers, what is going on right now is a perfect way to do it.
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    You mean like the vaccine in Inda that killed thousands? Hundreds of thousands if I recall correctly. Read the ingredients list on some of these vaccines, poisons that are forbidden in any other use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    I just watched a short segment about protesters in Michigan. While I am absolutely for protest, and I do think that we may be reaching a point where protesting while armed may be understood as a declaration of willingness to defend your freedoms, can we please not get the 2A community again conflated with the antivax crowd. "Vaccinate deez nutz", really? While wearing a plate carrier with an AR? During a pandemic. $*@& me, I want a vaccine YESTERDAY. I know we all want freedom, and I don't think we should force people to get vaccines. But can we please not be stupid and actually make decisions based on reality and risk vs benefit assessments, as opposed to insane youtube videos? No, Bill Gates did not create Covid19 to give you a shot to anally violate you at will... The Gates foundation had actually given billions to treat and research diseases that the Western world couldn't care much about. Say what you will, but he's the epitome of a capitalist putting his money where his mouth is. He actually committed more money to fixing this disaster than our freaking government.
    Bear in mind that you don't get to pick who shows up at parties where everyone is invited, and the potential for a good time is there for all to have. Personally, I believe that the anger-inspired rather than agenda-specific shindigs tend to be little more than monkey dances performed by the useful idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    Reading about it makes me think that this AstroTurf is a giant false flag operation.
    Bingo!

    And F the vaccine.

    Everyone should google the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their desire to reduce the population growth via vaccines.

    We need to wisen up YESTERDAY.

    Sadly, I would not bet that we will...


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    Polio, smallpox, measles, whooping cough, yellow fever, etc. Yes, vaccine - bad... Disease - good.
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    I take vaccines that work. This excludes the flu shot.
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    Who really wants to take a vaccine that everyone is racing at high speed to create before the next one discovers it? Give it to the Governors first and maybe Nancy who seems to be afraid to come out of hiding. I'll take my flu shots and wait a while on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-man* View Post
    I take vaccines that work. This excludes the flu shot.
    The flu shot works . . . against specific flu viruses. Contrary to some popular belief, flu shots do work. The problem is the many flu viruses, and the one you catch may not be included in the current year's flu vaccine lottery.

    Covid-19 is a specific virus, and a vaccine against that specific virus should be effective. Whether it will be included in with next year's
    "flu vaccine" or given separately remains to be seen.
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