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This is a discussion on 🎶 Bad Boys Bad Boys, What’cha gonna do when they come for you? 🎵 within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by gnius Just to be clear. I am quite certain that Chinese and Russian trolls are spreading anti-vaccine propaganda among the conservatives with ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    Just to be clear. I am quite certain that Chinese and Russian trolls are spreading anti-vaccine propaganda among the conservatives with hopes of destabilizing society and making us die.
    "I am quite certain"
    "I hope"
    "maybe"
    "supposedly"
    "probably"
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    I don't do the flu vaccines and wont do this covid vaccine. I will get the DTaP and HepB vaccines though. I was vaccinated twice in my adult years, once when I enlisted and the second I don't remember why, think it was a requirement for a job. I haven't been to a Dr in 30 yrs and have only gone to the ER for being hurt. I don't do anti-biotics for anything, even on cuts etc... This has given me an extremely strong immune system and very rarely catch any cold or flu, allergies mess with me a bit the first of spring though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    It doesn't mean what you think it means.

    A 50 year old cell line is only fetal cells in about the same way most water in your body has been animal urine at some point.

    Nobody is grinding fetuses to make vaccines. Viruses grow in cells. Some long-used cell lines have been well-characterized for their growth properties and appear to work for vaccine development. Yes, some of those cells were derived from fetuses. Many other OLD cell lines were derived from cancer cells (HeLa, etc). In the spirit of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", people continue to use the same cell lines the first of these vaccines were developed in. They have nothing to do with the virus. The only reason to present these cells is to generate shocking headlines and scare people into not taking safe and potentially life-saving treatments.

    I could make a cell line from a cheek scraping from you, or from a bone marrow sample and grow a hundred tons of those cells over the next century.
    Then why is planned parenthood selling aborted fetuses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheatpaul View Post
    I have had meds in the past that when you read the side effects they are worse than the cure.....yet I take the flu vaccine every year even though they miss some times...started taking when my dad was terminal and his doctor asked us to take it to keep dad from getting the flu. Kept it up and so far so good....but this rush to the cure might not allow us to know what the long term effects might be....I will wait and see at this point!
    I’ve gotten the flu vaccine for the past few years since my immune system has been down but didn’t when I was in better health. This year was the first for the pneumonia shot, you know...the age thing creeps up on you and it’s “suggested” lol.

    At my age I never got the MMR, there was a “blip” for a few years in the 60’s and some of us boomers got caught without it.

    The new one regarding the CHINA VIRUS, we’re both with the others that say wait and see. I’m retired, but am the type that would quit a job if made to take something like this. One of those....You go first! 😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    Then why is planned parenthood selling aborted fetuses?
    I haven't bought any ground fetus, so beats me.

    I have done a lot of work with viruses and cell lines though. If you want to know what a cell line is, please read this. You're entitled to your opinion, but please don't spread rumors and FUD.
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    Vaccine from BIG PHARMA and our Government ????? NO frickin way !!!!!
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    I believe in vaccines.
    But the rush scares me a bit.
    I see way too many commercials on TV from lawyers suing big pharmaceutical over bad meds or procedures.
    The recent one that has me cringing is the one that they say gives you gangrene of the genitals.
    I rather have high blood sugar than have my buddy rot and fall off.
    So I may wait a while
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    I am glad that I am entitled to my opinion.

    Me and mine won't be vaccinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    I believe in vaccines.
    But the rush scares me a bit.
    I see way too many commercials on TV from lawyers suing big pharmaceutical over bad meds or procedures.
    The recent one that has me cringing is the one that they say gives you gangrene of the genitals.
    I rather have high blood sugar than have my buddy rot and fall off.
    So I may wait a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    I believe in vaccines.
    But the rush scares me a bit.
    I see way too many commercials on TV from lawyers suing big pharmaceutical over bad meds or procedures.
    Sure, it's the malpractice lawyers you should get medical advice from...

    Given that they're making an inactivated vaccine, I'd be far more concerned about lack of efficacy than any kind of harm.
    Live vaccines tend to be much more potent, but are tricky to make and do actually require many years of development to ensure safety, but I'm not aware of people doing that for this virus as of yet.

    Not only that, but the scale of the manufacturing for this vaccine will likely be unprecedented. I want to make sure it's manufactured in an allied country (preferably US, but UK, France, or Israel is probably fine) too. The Chinese will likely have a vaccine first, as they are absolutely using human subjects in their research, but if offered a Chinese vaccine would probably be the first time in my life that I would have to absolutely refuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCC73 View Post
    Vaccine from BIG PHARMA and our Government ????? NO frickin way !!!!!

    They will use it to put chips in us, hot chips (bbq hot) that will be programmed to their dishes in the sky and the brown shirts will know where you are every second. The will follow you, they will listen to what you say all by this little chip under your skin. I bet it will have a camera in it too!!!

    Amen, I agree with you - no way! Seriously, this is 666 stuff - Lucifer and friends.

    I’m scared I’ll go to hell if I get this chip
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    Just to be clear. I am quite certain that Chinese and Russian trolls are spreading anti-vaccine propaganda among the conservatives with hopes of destabilizing society and making us die.
    Lol. I don't want any of what your smoking. There's already enough of that second hand smoke to go around for everyone.
    Tamiflu anyone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister View Post
    Okay, may I attempt to open a can of ants (not worms) and ask:

    Q: Will you take the vaccine if they offer it?

    OR....

    Q: If your job requires you to have the vaccine, would you quit your job?



    We have recently had this discussion at home and are wondering if others have, and what the thought are.

    CWOUSCG came inside a min ago freaking cause the vaccines were made with fetus material. I already knew this and chuckled.



    [didn’t give our answer yet, that would be a can of worms 😉]
    A lot depends on the originators of the vaccine.

    If (Jeffery Epstein pal) Bill Gates or china has anything to do with it, absolutely not.

    If it is a clean and well-tested vaccine with good results, sure.

    (Full disclosure, I have a smallish investment in a small, United States company developing an impressive looking wuhan Virus candidate. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMinSC View Post
    and sausage
    I was going to ask if Sis had ever read the ingredients of Chorizo?
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    I'm not anti vax by any measure! But I'm taking a wait and see on this one! DR
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