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What is your opinion on salvaging relics from shipwrecks

This is a discussion on What is your opinion on salvaging relics from shipwrecks within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I see no problem in controlled salvage efforts, with a couple of provisos: Military shipwrecks are like battlefields. Any salvage should be done with proper ...

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    I see no problem in controlled salvage efforts, with a couple of provisos:

    Military shipwrecks are like battlefields. Any salvage should be done with proper respect for the dead.

    Civilian wrecks should also be treated as grave sites with appropriate respect.

    However, there is much history in many of these sites and it will be lost forever - even though we have the technological ability to retrieve and preserve some of it.

    I found an artifact of historical significance at Fort Davis National Historical Site:

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    It looked a lot like this one. I'm sure someone somewhere figured out what it says. I thought it was probably an early Burma Shave ad. What was incredible was that no one had found it. We climbed the mountain to get a better photo of the old fort and just stumbled on it.

    We also hiked up to a military crash site outside El Paso. There are still a lot of small pieces just lying around.

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    I don't have a problem salvaging the Titanic. I don't think water should be treated any differently than land.
    And we certainly don't have a problem excavating grave sites or places where people have died on land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAcanis View Post
    I don't have a problem salvaging the Titanic. I don't think water should be treated any differently than land.
    And we certainly don't have a problem excavating grave sites or places where people have died on land.
    Agree as long as it is done scientifically with preservation and unlocking history.
    I am totally against grave robbing for profit.
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    USS Arizona, is still a "Ship of the line" it is different, I was a Police Officer working the Norfolk docks when the first artifacts where brought in from the M.V. Titanic , they where treated with the upmost respect, and stored accordingly , salt bath where created to keep items stable and the team from the salvage company , were top notch. They will do the lest damage possible to retrieve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osprey View Post
    For the Titanic: who cares. Let whoever salvage whatever they can under maritime law. It is only famous because it was boasted as an unsinkable ship and it sank. It also had the unsinkable "Molly Brown" on board which helped with the historical lore. It is an old rust bucket. Salvaging something from this wreck is like salvaging something form a 1600's ere ship that sank.

    The USS Arizona is different. It is a part of US history. The historical context of the attack on Pearl Harbor and how it shaped the world after is important. Salvaging or keeping the remains of the vessel intact would be something I consider worthy of the effort.
    The Titanic shaped history as well and the effects are ongoing. Ship design, International Ice Patrol, and others are a direct result of that wreck.
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    I didn't see if anyone else posted this, but sunken ships usually belong to an insurance company. Sometimes they get protective even if they have no intention of salvaging any items themselves.
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    History has been changed so many times (by people that are confused or lie) I don’t see where it would make any difference unless your a collector of that kind of stuff and want to pay somebody to go get it.

    Don’t care either way, those ppl that were on those ships are long dead, melt the metal down and make useful things out of it to pay for the trouble of going to the bottom of an ocean/lake to pull it up. No bodies involved, no problem - it’s just STUFF!

    Remember George Carlins rant about Stuff?!

    Hey....they (liberal butt holes) are taking the/our HISTORICAL MONUMENTS down and I don’t see anybody trying to stop that except a bunch of old women and we’re labeled racist and kkk (according to Wiki) for trying to respect history???


    Whats the difference between these ships and our historical monuments? Right, nothing! Both represents folks that have died.
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