This is a discussion on The Stupid is Strong on This One within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I agree with all the negatives here, but I also see some positives. A few thoughts. A millennial is carrying a gun for SD. Politically, ...
I agree with all the negatives here, but I also see some positives. A few thoughts.
- A millennial is carrying a gun for SD. Politically, we need all of those we can get.
- He knew he needed to find training. He was out of order buying and carrying the gun first, but realizing the need for training shows he is not without some level of common sense.
- I think we take the availability of training for granted nowadays. When I bought my first handgun, "to protect myself against dinosaurs," there wasn't a lot of training out there. When I carried as a security guard, there was just a range test, no training. I passed easily because I had been shooting for about nine years at that point. My father, who had been in military police in WWII, taught me and it was free-form, no training syllabus.
- I am a fan of training and I have taken a fair bit of it, but I have read several stories over the years of people successfully defending themselves with guns even though they've never fired one before. I would never recommend that, but there it is.
- 2A does not say, "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, as long as the people have gone through a basic pistol class." An underlying theme in the COTUS and the BOR is that we place our trust in "the people" to do the right thing. When they don't do the right thing, it is their individual responsibility, not the state's responsibility to have forced them do the right thing.
- Governments use training requirements to restrict the RTKABA. DC is doing that right now. They have "may issue," because the courts mandated it, but their training and application requirements are hard to understand and harder to implement. It is a subtle form of gun control.
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How many times must we see defenseless people die before we realize being defenseless is NOT the answer? // The First protects the Second and the Second protects the First. Together, THEY PROTECT EVERYTHING ELSE.
I apologize for also being stupid but what in the heck is a “Taurus model 2”?
How many DC folks can identify with this:
I’m of the age where as kids, we always watched tv westerns and war movies (in black and white ) and then played with our toy guns in the neighborhood. Cowboys and Indians, or Big Army (As opposed to “Little Army” using toy army men, tanks etc). We had cap guns, plastic grenades, bows & suction-cup arrows. We learned about guns as youngsters, albeit not all the safety aspects, but it was normal accepted activity. No “fear” or anxiety....
From there we moved up to BB Guns, and supervision by Dad or Big Brother. Then on to 22LR, shotgun and 22LR pistols followed eventually by the deer rifle. By the time we were well into our teens, we knew all about guns, safety, and respect for the responsibility required with gun ownership. Sometimes I wish those days were not behind us, as some of the issues of today regarding gun ownership (as in the case of the OP’s example) might not exist.
"Once that bell rings, you're on your own. It's just you and the other guy.” - Joe Lewis
“I’m not obsessive about cleaning my guns. I like them like my martinis and my women....a ‘little’ dirty.....”
A GROUCHY German is a Sour Kraut....
So that proves that some do open carry to say look at me and to make a statement?
Just asking because that has come up in other threads on open carry and concealed carry
as well as one vs the other...Assuming the OP wasn't just making up the story.
My wifes girlfriends Dad bought his first gun last Summer.
He heard I carried guns and knew about them.( I'm head of security at our Church) So he bought one. He confided in me that he always wanted one. He turned 95 last Fall.
I gave him some safety advice, muzzle training and trigger discipline before he purchased his first. When he first approached me on the subject I was a little apprehensive at first due to his age. So I suggested he find an instructor and get professional training with the gun he bought before he started carrying it in his car. So he did. He shoots at our local indoor range every 2 weeks or so.
Yep, he's 95 and still driving. In fact he bowls on a league every Wednesday and has a 270 average. He also plays the piano and accordion. Amazing guy with a good mind and body for his age. He's a retired delivery truck driver from New York City. Very Italian. But a very small frail looking guy.
He moved to Texas to live out his life with his Daughter and SIL. He's been living with them 8 years now.
Apparently he likes the Texas attitude.
He just got his concealed carry license right before Christmas last year.. Only thing is he's not comfortable carry his semi auto 9mm handgun chambered. But at least he's packing concealed occasionally.
I fear he won't use it if he needs it, but we don't have a lot of crime where we live.
I can only hope to be as active when I get his age.
What have you done to prepare for the end of civilization as we know it?
Stupid yes but we trust people daily with and accept that risk daily....just driving the roads of America.
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Him: "No. I just wanted to show it off a little."
Unfortunately, I think that is true for a lot of folks that OC (I know that will offend some folks - I'm OK with that). I hope this fellow took your suggestions seriously and doesn't get himself or others into a problem. He's really not doing any of us any favors.