This is a discussion on Open carry Holster Retention question within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I only OC when hiking. My holster has a thumb strap. I would never use a Sepra style retention holster because it is susceptible to ...
I only OC when hiking. My holster has a thumb strap. I would never use a Sepra style retention holster because it is susceptible to malfunction that would prevent releaseing the retention device. I am not taking that that chance ever. The thumb strap is a well proven retention device, and I’d almost failproof.
As for a person coming up from be hind to strip my pistold from its holster I don’t spend anytime worrying about as it is very improbable. An very important part of my situations awaremess is knowing who is behind you and keeping your hearing tuned in. Whe hiking if I hear beople behind me I turn my head and look them over. If they look a bit unsavory I stop and let them pass. I also method of defending against a gun snatch.
When I OC there is no justifiable reason for anyone to touch my holstered gun. If someone does I have a duty to stop them and keep control of my gun. If a person makes a grap for the gun they will be slowed by the thumbstrap. My response would be to get hold of their thumb and force it backward until I hear the crack of the joint. That person is not going to be able to get my gun after that. If you play they scenario out in your mind you can see just how vulnerable the offender’s thumb would be.
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The margin for error is approximately 0.000573% which is coincidentally the same amount of time, in fractions of a second, that it takes the average person to bleed out from a hit to the femoral artery.
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A study published in 2013 by the Violence Policy Center, using five years of nationwide statistics (2007-2011) compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation found that defensive gun uses occur an average of 67,740 times per year.
Criminologist and researcher Gary Kleck, using his own commissioned phone surveys and number extrapolation, estimates that Americans use guns for defensive purposes 1.2 million times each year –
3200+ people a day used a gun defensively in the US from 07-11. If crime has gone down even 20% since 2011, that would still leave 2560 people a day using a gun defensively.
It's estimated that 31% of households in the US have at least one gun/gun owner. If the other 2/3's experience the same rate of crimes against them that would entail drawing a gun defensively if they had one, would the numbers be something like 10K people a day have violence perpetrated against them but only 1/3 have a gun to defend themselves with?
If one uses a gun defensively, would that be considered a violent crime perpetrated against them, or at least an attempted violent crime against them?
The CDC's own numbers which they buried for twenty years show 2 million DGU's annually.
As for the other published studies.
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense?There are approximately two million defensive gun uses (DGU's) per year by law abiding citizens. That was one of the findings in a national survey conducted by Gary Kleck, a Florida State University criminologist in 1993. Prior to Dr. Kleck's survey, thirteen other surveys indicated a range of between 800,000 to 2.5 million DGU's annually. However these surveys each had their flaws which prompted Dr. Kleck to conduct his own study specifically tailored to estimate the number of DGU's annually.
Subsequent to Kleck's study, the Department of Justice sponsored a survey in 1994 titled, Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms (text, PDF). Using a smaller sample size than Kleck's, this survey estimated 1.5 million DGU's annually.
There is one study, the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), which in 1993, estimated 108,000 DGU's annually. Why the huge discrepancy between this survey and fourteen others?
Most DGU's are never reported to police.
Both Lott and Kleck confirmed this using different methodologies by which they each found that over 30% of inmates had been deterred at least once by simply knowing a target was armed without them ever even drawing the firearm and of those more than 70% confirmed they knew other criminals deterred in the same way.
Study : Guns Stop Crime 2.5 Million Times Each Year | Think About Now
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