Motorcycle open carry

Motorcycle open carry

This is a discussion on Motorcycle open carry within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Iím curious as to what riders open carry and why. I ride. I live in the DFW Tx area and I open carry while riding. ...

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    Motorcycle open carry

    Iím curious as to what riders open carry and why.

    I ride. I live in the DFW Tx area and I open carry while riding.

    My reasoning:
    Getting cut off from DFW on ramps from the right is far reduced with a visible sidearm. I get cut off most in a car, a little less riding and significantly less openly armed. Some folks will push past a car, fewer past a bike and lots fewer past an armed biker.

    I just sold the CZ 99021 I carried since it was black and not so visible. Iím currently acquiring a CZ-82 as that model is specifically designed for use with heavy gloves. Itís nickel coated as well, to be more visible. Might as well wear a model I can actually use should it come to it. I ride gloved.

    I move to concealed when not riding. The bike has lockable hard bags for this reason. Iíll already have a concealed on or one available in the bags.

    I only open carry while riding, fishing or hunting.




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    If you carry right-handed, you need a cruise control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    If you carry right-handed, you need a cruise control.
    Ambi, yet another reason for the CZ-82, but the risk of firing while in motion are really high. My priority would be to get stopped and preferably under cover. I have thought of left handed cavalry carry.


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    I was riding my motorcycle one weekend and saw there was a gun show at the convention center as I was riding by. I stopped and went in thinking I was just looking and not buying. I bought a blowgun with darts mounted on it from top to bottom. It was about four feet long and had a sling on it. I rode home for several miles with it slung across my back. I got lots of doubletake looks from drivers that day.
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    My firearms are covered by the vest, I ALWAYS wear (M/C requirement). I have pistols available for left & right hand draw (vest doesn't restrict access). I've practiced drawing & firing, while "safely out in the country". Don't care to advertise my defensive options. The ONLY time I O.C., is in the woods, on private property.
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    I open carry and conceal carry on the bike. Depends on the mood.
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    Ride what you want...Carry how you want....
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    I do both, depending.

    However; I would question the motivation of OC as a way to ward off people that would cut you off. I donít agree with this, because I donít believe it is the correct expectation.
    Also, I would much rather rely on the power-to-weight ratio of my bike to get where I needed to be on the road then to depend on someone seeing a gun on my belt at 70+ mph down a crowded freeway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I do both, depending.

    However; I would question the motivation of OC as a way to ward off people that would cut you off. I donít agree with this, because I donít believe it is the correct expectation.
    Also, I would much rather rely on the power-to-weight ratio of my bike to get where I needed to be on the road then to depend on someone seeing a gun on my belt at 70+ mph down a crowded freeway.
    Low speed, rush hour city traffic, no where to go. The bike is too wide to split lanes.

    It makes a serious difference, but I expect this is due to my specific area and situation. Texas loves their 1/4 mile merging lanes that you donít see elsewhere.

    I donít get the people that have all this room and still cut people off by crossing the white line etc at the end of a 1/4 mile merge run. I nearly get hit in my car daily when not riding.

    They are a little hesitant to do it to a bike, it is rare when I OC.

    This isnít a problem in lighter traffic.



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    I would like to OC on my bike, but people have been swatted doing that in my state and I make stops from time to time at places that aren't posted, but I think would get hinky if they saw me OC, so I don't.

    I would not ever consider firing a gun defensively while my bike is in motion. I think maneuver and speed are the best responses to a moving threat. I can accelerate faster and brake in a shorter distance than a cager. I can maneuver in a much shorter space and go through smaller spaces like lane splitting between cars to get away.

    Firing while riding would present accuracy problems that I think would need to be trained for and I don't have the venue to do that kind of training. Also, shooting with riding gloves is problematic. I would worry about the bullets going places I didn't want them to. I carry for when I'm off the bike, at a stop. My choice, not telling anyone else what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I do both, depending.

    However; I would question the motivation of OC as a way to ward off people that would cut you off. I donít agree with this, because I donít believe it is the correct expectation.
    Also, I would much rather rely on the power-to-weight ratio of my bike to get where I needed to be on the road then to depend on someone seeing a gun on my belt at 70+ mph down a crowded freeway.
    That's always going to be my first option
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    Avoidance is always the best 1st option of course. There are times that wonít work.

    And I will be training gloved.
    I canít imagine trying to fire while moving though, I wonít train for that. Iím typically commuting through traffic and have no real expectation of a sidearm as a viable option.

    That being said, I got 10í from a coyote that was stuck on the median the morning of the time change last year. I assume he was used to crossing there an hour before traffic started and was stuck that day. He yawned and showed teeth. It is the closest I have come to actually using a gun. I unsnapped and put hands on ready to draw, but he never advanced. Poor guy was really stuck in a bad situation. I wasnít thinking of danger being on my left in a median right after a bridge. A car couldnít have gotten there. Our dumb luck that I just happened to stop right next to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I do both, depending.

    However; I would question the motivation of OC as a way to ward off people that would cut you off. I donít agree with this, because I donít believe it is the correct expectation.
    Also, I would much rather rely on the power-to-weight ratio of my bike to get where I needed to be on the road then to depend on someone seeing a gun on my belt at 70+ mph down a crowded freeway.
    If the one is using the firearm to intimidate other motorists, could that be a form of "brandishing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patkelly4370 View Post
    If the one is using the firearm to intimidate other motorists, could that be a form of "brandishing"?

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    Open carrying isn't brandishing. Hard to prove intent to intimidate unless you put your hand on it during a problem.
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    Brandishing it isn't in my opinion.
    But OCing to let people know not to mess with you isn't the right mindset.
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