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RIP OC - Man Banned from Walmart in Lexington, KY

This is a discussion on RIP OC - Man Banned from Walmart in Lexington, KY within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by starlights You're better than Walmart. Love yourself. You're worth it. . Love it! ❤️ Being a southern woman, this is gonna be ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by starlights View Post
    You're better than Walmart.

    Love yourself.

    You're worth it.

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    Love it! ❤️
    Being a southern woman, this is gonna be my new signature line, Ill look myself in the mirror and say it loud!

    I AM BETTER THAN WALMART!! Woo Hoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Perhaps nobody really cares.
    It wouldn’t be social media worthy and sensational if it showed everything.

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    I finally got around to reading his Facebook post.

    It would garner him a “D” in 6th grade English. I’m guessing all was well until he started yelling for service. Someone called 911 to report someone yelling and acting erratically, and BTW he’s armed. Now I understand why seven officers showed up. Once they determined the reason he was upset - and verified he wasn’t endangering anyone - they backed off. Why he signed anything I don’t know. Maybe the manager was going to press some charge if he didn’t sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew03 View Post
    I figured out how to make an announcement over the speaker system. Oh you should have seen the people show up then.
    That would have been a blast. I’m reminded of a scene in Mr. Roberts when the Captain is screaming for Roberts over the PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorhead1026 View Post
    Yep, the PD is just as guilty as the “perp”.

    I’d like to see how and if Wal-Mart enforces the “ban”. You’d think such decisions would be made at the corporate level. They going to scan the faces of people entering, like casinos?
    They don't have to do anything with face recognition. Next time he's doing something that draw their attention, the leo's will be there shortly. I bet WM has a national list started on names not allowed in their stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    Some people believe that the best way to protect their freedoms is to deliberately exercise them in the most obnoxious ways possible, and dare others to stop them. Then, when someone stops them, they get to complain self-righteously about the unfairness of the world, which ultimately is what they really want.
    Agreed. Do you think this episode is favorable or unfavorable for gun owners in general? I knew the world was unfair the first time I tried to reach the top shelf in the kitchen. So you are saying this fellow is just a complainer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbadger View Post
    Agreed. Do you think this episode is favorable or unfavorable for gun owners in general? I knew the world was unfair the first time I tried to reach the top shelf in the kitchen. So you are saying this fellow is just a complainer?
    Most minds are already made up. Publicized incidents like this one trigger either confirmation bias, or cognitive dissonance, if anything at all. Opinions don't get swayed.
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    I've not read through the whole thread. My take is that Walmart is asking that customers not openly carry in their stores. That addresses the concerns of their other customers who may not be fond of guns. In other words, you can still carry, just don't shove it down my throat.

    Naturally, you have those folks who are "full tilt boogie" I'm going to carry because it's legal and I really don't give a damn for common courtesy or what anybody else thinks.

    And those folks will end up screwing it up for the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DG View Post
    I've not read through the whole thread. My take is that Walmart is asking that customers not openly carry in their stores. That addresses the concerns of their other customers who may not be fond of guns. In other words, you can still carry, just don't shove it down my throat.

    Naturally, you have those folks who are "full tilt boogie" I'm going to carry because it's legal and I really don't give a damn for common courtesy or what anybody else thinks.

    And those folks will end up screwing it up for the rest of us.
    Already have
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    What this thread has not considered are the rights of the business. As a business owner I have the legal right to ask anyone to leave. Wal Mart et al are trying to find middle ground between gun owners and the delicate snowflakes. In light of recent events any and every MWAG call will result in a heavy rollout from LE (better safe than sorry). Since they apparently don't want to alienate all legal gun owners they still (to date) allow legal CC. They were (are) in a no-win situation. Either alienate all gun owners or alienate all snowflakes. They chose a compromise position.

    If your state allows, you have the legal right to OC. The business has the legal right to say whether they will allow OC on their premises. You have the right to not do business with them. Wal Mart made their choice, you need to make yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbadger View Post
    Agreed. Do you think this episode is favorable or unfavorable for gun owners in general? I knew the world was unfair the first time I tried to reach the top shelf in the kitchen. So you are saying this fellow is just a complainer?
    I believe that there's a significant number of people who deal with a perceived injustice by developing a keen sense of outrage, and display it in an act of protest or defiance, without considering that others may see things differently and, instead of sympathizing, be appalled.

    Is this one of those people? Maybe. At any rate, I don't think he's won any support for the pro-gun side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    I am a staunch 2A supporter, so I think that doing anything that makes some of the public question the actions of a gun owner is just foolish and does us no good.
    I totally agree. Of course I OC. But I've long had -- and use -- my CC permit precisely because there are many areas and occasions where I do not believe OC is the best way to go.

    However, I will always maintain that no matter how ill-advised it was for that kid to OC like that, it was also his right to do so, and without hassle from a blitheringly idiotic Walmart manager who pulled the fire alarm, much less from a city intentionally misapplying a law which has absolutely nothing to do with what he was doing OCing in Walmart.

    Put simply:

    Focus not on the idiot and his ill-advised act.

    Instead, focus on the idiot Walmart manager who pulled the fire alarm in respect to lawful behavior.

    Focus on the idiot city trying to falsely accuse the kid of charges which absolutely do not apply.

    Focus on the idiot anti-gun aka anti-Constitutional forces who spin everything out of whack to get their anti-Constitutional way.

    They're the enemy.

    Not the young, misguided kid who did a foolish thing.

    Hammer them, the real people behind all this.
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    @since9 , I think you made good points about focus, but the public does not focus on those things. They focus on the guy with a gun, and that is why the fellow in the video did us a disservice. I wish we could get the average person to focus on your recommendations. It would help improve perception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Focus not on the idiot and his ill-advised act.

    Instead, focus on the idiot Walmart manager who pulled the fire alarm in respect to lawful behavior.

    Focus on the idiot city trying to falsely accuse the kid of charges which absolutely do not apply.

    Focus on the idiot anti-gun aka anti-Constitutional forces who spin everything out of whack to get their anti-Constitutional way.

    They're the enemy.

    Not the young, misguided kid who did a foolish thing.

    Hammer them, the real people behind all this.
    That raises a question, though: ARE they the real people behind it? Or do the other customers really not want him there, doing what he's doing? If the latter, we can hardly blame the store or the police.

    Recently, I saw someone OC'ing in a Target store for the very first time. As I passed him in the aisle, I thought, well, finally, that's cool (though my pistol was concealed as always). But sure enough, I got to the other end of the aisle, and there was a woman and her teenaged daughter, watching him and whispering nervously. Maybe 20 minutes later I passed them again after checking out, and they were still talking about him. I caught some words of the daughter: "I don't care, we should be able to go shopping and feel safe." I don't know if police were called or if the guy got hassled.

    It's a very serious mistake to ignore public sentiment about guns, or assume that it falls largely in our favor. These folks may be wrong, they may be misguided, but they're not idiots, and their votes each count just as much as ours (as they should). The 2A does not mean a right to carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for any purpose whatsoever, and there are important things that can be lawfully taken from us. If a pro-gun person decides to push such people into doing so, then yes, I will blame him for his foolishness and hubris.
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