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This is a discussion on May Have to Start OCing within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; OC in Chicago would indicate the end of times is upon us. It would trigger a “Blues Brothers” level response....

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    OC in Chicago would indicate the end of times is upon us. It would trigger a “Blues Brothers” level response.
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    What are ya gonna do? Let him fear you because of the gun?

    Here Is a perfect example of what is really wrong with OC.

    It is not an action, it is a mentality.
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    In most jurisdictions displaying a weapon with the specific intent to intimidate is menacing. It's usually a felony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    In most jurisdictions displaying a weapon with the specific intent to intimidate is menacing. It's usually a felony
    In all jurisdictions, a properly holstered OC firearm is either listed by law or has been ruled by state or federal court as not meeting the definition of "alarm," "intimidation," or "menacing." Even so, OC remains in violation of legislation in 5 states and D.C.

    Reference St. John v. Alamogordo
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    What are ya gonna do? Let him fear you because of the gun?

    Here Is a perfect example of what is really wrong with OC.

    It is not an action, it is a mentality.
    Question: Do you observe those of us who favor OC in the CC section bashing CC?

    No?

    Then why are those of you who favor CC here in the OC section bashing OC?

    BOTH modes of carry are lawful in MOST states, 45 for OC and 50 for CC (IIRC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Question: Do you observe those of us who favor OC in the CC section bashing CC?

    No?

    Then why are those of you who favor CC here in the OC section bashing OC?

    BOTH modes of carry are lawful in MOST states, 45 for OC and 50 for CC (IIRC).
    Bad ideas are just that, regardless of the sub-forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Question: Do you observe those of us who favor OC in the CC section bashing CC?

    No?

    Then why are those of you who favor CC here in the OC section bashing OC?

    BOTH modes of carry are lawful in MOST states, 45 for OC and 50 for CC (IIRC).
    Look here; OC has been part of the constitution in my state since it was founded, so please don’t think you can give a lesson plan there.

    And secondly, the OP himself stated his motivation behind his reason, so don’t even go there.

    And thirdly, don’t be silly about bashing OC. You would have to get an awful damn tall ladder to climb in that saddle.

    And, additionally, there was a time when this forum was only about “ Concealed Carry” and thus called “ Defensive Concealed Carry Forum”, so, you are just going to have to expect that many of the long standing members here joined before they even allowed the OC subforum, a decision I question to this day, but I ain’t the boss, so here we are dealing with this overzealous nonsense.

    Nonsense such as wanting to OC for the purposes of intimidation or “ dont mess with me, I’m armed “ BS...which is really what it is.
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    The OP sure does seem to attract more than his fair share of interesting situations...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Bad ideas are just that, regardless of the sub-forum.
    Yet again you bash OC as a "bad idea" while providing absolutely zero objective evidence to support your claim.

    Constantly bashing OC in the OC section is just bad form, Mike. If you have a rational, intelligent argument to make, then by all means, make it. Please cite objective evidence applicable to the practice as a whole, rather than one-off anecdotal stories limited to outliers in the data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1911A1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Yet again you bash OC as a "bad idea" while providing absolutely zero objective evidence to support your claim.

    Constantly bashing OC in the OC section is just bad form, Mike. If you have a rational, intelligent argument to make, then by all means, make it. Please cite objective evidence applicable to the practice as a whole, rather than one-off anecdotal stories limited to outliers in the data.
    You complain about the bash when those who disagree with your opinion express theirs. I'm expressing an opinion. No more to it than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    You complain about the bash when those who disagree with your opinion express theirs. I'm expressing an opinion. No more to it than that.
    I rarely merely express my opinion. I explain why, often providing links to factual evidence, or at least logical discourse.

    Your merely expressing your opinion in the negative is a "bash" and not edifying to the general populace of this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    In all jurisdictions, a properly holstered OC firearm is either listed by law or has been ruled by state or federal court as not meeting the definition of "alarm," "intimidation," or "menacing." Even so, OC remains in violation of legislation in 5 states and D.C.

    Reference St. John v. Alamogordo
    I am not going down this Rabbit Hole again. The OP made his intent crystal clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    I rarely merely express my opinion. I explain why, often providing links to factual evidence, or at least logical discourse.

    Your merely expressing your opinion in the negative is a "bash" and not edifying to the general populace of this forum.
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