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Reloading 380 with 9mm dies

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#1 ·
Today I was messing around on me reloading bench to see if I could load a projectile into an empty 380 case. My 380 is on layaway at the moment so I can't try to load the dummy round to see if it fits. I popped the primer successfully, resized it, and loaded a lead 115gr 9mm projectile into it. Surprisingly it fit perfect, no struggling, just a smooth placement. It looks odd with the 9mm and not up to spec obviously... but it seated an alike bullet.

Now I've heard it debated you can't do this. Obviously for real ill be loading 380 projectiles, but since it popped, sized, and seated the bullet, why not use these dies? Is it "chicken little" mentality? At the very least I should be able to use the decapper and the seater and buy the 380 sizer?
 
#2 ·
The 9mm case is slightly larger diameter than the .380. I would predict that your .380 reloads would not chamber properly, although it's possible there could be enough slop in your chamber to allow it.

Another issue is that the 9mm case is tapered, while the .380 is not, so even if it works, you'll probably wear out the cases after a few reloads due to the flexing of the brass. Might be extraction issues too, with the tapered case being wedged into the straight-walled .380 chamber.

Be careful!
 
#3 ·
I've heard guys using a spacer washer to make a 44 magnum die good to reload 44 special... or is it the other way around? And same thing for 357 and 38 special.
Anyway, I don't see why 9mm dies couldn't be used to reload 9mm short.
 
#8 ·
You can do it. Not MY first choice.
The steps most likely to cause problems are flaring and crimping.
You can probably get the flaring tool adjusted low enough.
But crimping (removing the flare) needs to be done in die short enough to do it right.

You could use those dies "in a pinch", but I recommend spending the few dollars and buy dies for the specific case.
They will be better for it. And you eliminate the risk of leaving set " wrong" for the 9mm.
 
#11 ·
Argh. Well, I exclusively use lyman dies, I've had the best luck with them. But theirs is $50. I've tried the lee value sets, hated them, got stuck all the time regardless of proper lube, and the adjustments sucked on them. Other choice may be Hornady. Are they similar to Lyman?
 
#12 ·
If you get carbide dies, you won't need lube.

I like Hornady and RCBS the best. Dillon's dies have some good features, but their seating die has a rather coarse adjustment. If you'll only load the same type bullet to the same OAL, then you can take the extra time to adjust it then lock it down. You can take it apart for cleaning without losing the adjustment, too.
 
#16 ·
The 380 case head diameter is .374 and the 9mm head diameter is .391. I have never tried it myself, but I don't see how the change head diameters. Maybe someone can explain.
 
#17 ·
I think everyone here has touched on the need for proper tools. Get some carbide dies for .380.

The .380 is a low pressure round. Not likely to expand the body of the case. You obviously can get the bullet started. So whether your actually expanding the case or NOT resizing the mouth, the bullet fits.
 
#18 ·
Back in 93 and 94 I reloaded .380 for my wife's Bersa and yes I used my 9mm dies and 90gr bullets and there was never a problem and I used a Dillon Square D press but that was a long time ago so as they say things change, you might want to check with a smith of some years and get his input rather then listen to what you hear from some one without the qualifications and full reference.