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    I'm for 50 State Reciprocity under the Second Amendment of United States Constitution.

    I believe requiring a permit to carry is unconstitutional.

    It will be a while before the courts come around to my point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    I'm for 50 State Reciprocity under the Second Amendment of United States Constitution.

    I believe requiring a permit to carry is unconstitutional.

    It will be a while before the courts come around to my point of view.
    The Courts view us as dangerous beasts and they are correct. We are showing them that we can be trusted.

    . . . like lions in a pride with a nose full off hyena!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy-SS View Post
    Of course, the 2A benefits greatly under the new administration. Obviously, the new POTUS is not yet sworn in but I'm curious: does anyone know if Fed-mandated 50-state CC reciprocity (is this even possible, considering states rights?), or perhaps a Federal CC permit has been mentioned or discussed at all?

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    Trust me, this is the last thing you want. No way is a federally issued carry permit a good thing. Be careful for that which you wish for... you just might get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cippee View Post
    The liberals are all upset about forcing the states the accept other states permits. The say it is against federalism. I laugh because they don't know what they are talking about. First the 2nd amendment is a federal right so the Feds have the say. Sencond the Feds tell the states what to do all the time traffic saftey, emissions, accepting gay marriage, and all other crap. The liberals don't complain about that. I laughed when I read the article the liberals put out about reciprocity.
    No it's not. It is a right that is unalienable and held by The People.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    I'm for 50 State Reciprocity under the Second Amendment of United States Constitution.

    I believe requiring a permit to carry is unconstitutional.

    It will be a while before the courts come around to my point of view.
    I'm very hopeful that after last Tuesday they will come around to your (our) point of view quicker than expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    No it's not. It is a right that is unalienable and held by The People.
    How do we convince them to give it up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    I'm very hopeful that after last Tuesday they will come around to your (our) point of view quicker than expected.
    Quicker than than the last 15,000 years of stupidity, quicker than Kierkegaard's White Knight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    I'm very hopeful that after last Tuesday they will come around to your (our) point of view quicker than expected.
    We need at least two, perhaps three, originalists to the court, and then the right case.

    Fingers crossed and prepared for the long game....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    We need at least two, perhaps three, originalists to the court, and then the right case.

    Fingers crossed and prepared for the long game....
    Given the age of some justices 3 is not out of reach in the next 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    We need at least two, perhaps three, originalists to the court, and then the right case.

    Fingers crossed and prepared for the long game....
    According to the rule of threes:

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    - the Republican sweep of the Government

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    Obscene control already outside their Constitutional limits.... No more!!!!! They are very adept at bamboozling the people.Those who would foolishly depend on the Gov for everything are not the only ones affected by their trickery either.

    I mean a national license and reciprocity sounds great... Of course we will need the DGLR (Department of Gun License and Reciprocity) to further regulate more liberty into eventual oblivion.. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by nlyric View Post
    Obscene control already outside their Constitutional limits.... No more!!!!! They are very adept at bamboozling the people.Those who would foolishly depend on the Gov for everything are not the only ones affected by their trickery either.

    I mean a national license and reciprocity sounds great... Of course we will need the DGLR (Department of Gun License and Reciprocity) to further regulate more liberty into eventual oblivion.. JMO
    How many of us would be willing to regulate our armed and dangerous nature without the tyranny of a mirror?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy-SS View Post
    Ahh, OK, I see where you guys are going with this..................... thanks
    Yes, a Federal CCW is also a Federal firearms owner registration database.

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    From TD's link...
    The right of self-defense doesnít stop at the end of your driveway. Thatís why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driverís license works in every state, so itís common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving Ė which is a privilege, not a right Ė then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

    It's interesting and ironic, that such a reciprocity would make it easier for an out-of-stater w a CCW to carry than it would be for a resident to get the permit in certain states (CA, NY etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    No it's not. It is a right that is unalienable and held by The People.
    I understand the rights are god given and not granted by the government. What I meant is the 10th amendment says "powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    The sencond amendment is federal so it's not up to the states. Take marriage that's not a federal right so it's up to the states. Every state has there own laws governing it. The states have to honor the 4th amendment they can't pass laws saying well we are gonna let cops search every house they want. So it would be within the federal governments power to stop states from passing gun laws like the safe act in NY or to tell states you must honor other states permits.

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