Here is one for you. Get ready to get mad.

Here is one for you. Get ready to get mad.

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    Here is one for you. Get ready to get mad.

    My modern sporting rifle is not protected by the second amendment. Apparently. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-rules-n724106

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    Why would we get mad by what the Fourth Circuit says about guns? SCOTUS, it seems, is done saying anything at all on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Why would we get mad by what the Fourth Circuit says about guns? SCOTUS, it seems, is done saying anything at all on the subject.
    Because its a step in the wrong direction, regardless.

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    Weapon of war? Which army is outfitting their military with AR15s? I am so sick of the perversion of "assault weapon" when the people that throw that term around cannot even define it. When asked to define it they will simple state AR15, AK47, etc. If you push them to explain it in objective terms that could be applied you will usually get the response of "I'll know it when I see it". They just do not get that is it about cosmetics.

    Either both of these are assault rifles or neither is
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    All these judges need to be forced into going to way carrying only an AR15 then let us see them call it a "weapon of war"
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    My .50-70 Trapdoor Springfield is also a weapon of war.

    Is the article linked actually a year old or just misdated?
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    Interesting that they used the phrase: "weapons of war" without setting a time parameter for when it was/is a "weapon of war." Without a time context all guns, swords, long knives, arrows, and even big sticks are "weapons of war."

    The 2A doesn't have any exceptions or exclusions. So, their decision was based on their personal beliefs and not the Constitution.
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    It is disgraceful that a body charged with defining law can be so ignorant of it.
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    Here is what I don’t understand. So if an AR is an “assault rifle” and “weapon of war”, and in US vs Miller SCOTUS ruled that 2A protects weapons used in a militia, then how is this not going against the SCOTUS ruling? Aside from the obvious of course, which is because they don’t care and have no problem taking their chances until they are told to reverse it, because they know there are no penalties.
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    It could be worse. An Aussie police superintendent (not an elected office) decided a bolt action rifle in a modern chassis looked scary and ordered all of them in his district be turned in. I would have turned in the chassis and mounted the rifle on wood because wood isn't scary.. That, or pink paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGunny View Post
    Interesting that they used the phrase: "weapons of war" without setting a time parameter for when it was/is a "weapon of war." Without a time context all guns, swords, long knives, arrows, and even big sticks are "weapons of war."

    The 2A doesn't have any exceptions or exclusions. So, their decision was based on their personal beliefs and not the Constitution.
    Judges today are nothing more than lawyers in bath robes. No real sense of obligation to a higher principle.
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    I wander if Judges take into consideration just who the 2nd Amendment is meant to protect us from.

    On second thought I think they most certainly do.
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    The judges are completely wrong about this and need to do their homework better. The Founders DID want We the People to be armed with weapons* that were the equivalent to those in use by the standing army. This would mean that we should be able to keep and bear M16's and M4's, which are commonly in use by the military. I would refer these judges to the United States vs Miller case.


    * The word "arms" as used in the Second Amendment meant weapons that were capable of being carried "on or about the person".
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    Quote Originally Posted by craze View Post
    I wander if Judges take into consideration just who the 2nd Amendment is meant to protect us from.

    On second thought I think they most certainly do.
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