This is a discussion on Why do dems keep saying you can buy guns on the internet with no background checks? within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Invisibleflash Every gun I ever bought on the net, or sold on the net, has to be shipped to a FFL dealer ...
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They say it because it is the tiny piece of truth embedded in their disinformation that makes their lies believable. Never mind that it's anybody's guess how many such transactions take place; it must certainly be comparativley few. Furthermore, to characterize a private sale as a loophole suggests hidden or even nefarious motives whereas to call it private risks reminding people that some things are no one else's business and should remain so. It is how the hoi polloi are influenced and controlled.
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The only private transfers allowed in Oregon are between immediate family. All other transfers have to go through a FFL with a background check. If I want to lend you a rifle for hunting season, we have to go to a licensed dealer and pay for the transfer and state police background check. When you give it back after hunting season, we have to go through the process again. That is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.
Oregon also has the red-flag laws. Anyone you have ever had any relationship with can petition a liberal judge to have you declared a danger to yourself or others and have your guns confiscated. My ex-wife who I haven't seen in over thirty-five years can tell a judge I am a danger and have all of my guns confiscated. Again, this is what the liberals and RINOs want nationally.
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When has facts or truth entered into the statements of a Liberal, Progressive and more recently any Democrat on anything?
Of course if anyone "wants" to bypass a law, note I did not say violate as that might be considered hurtful to criminals, they will find a way and last I checked even California doesn't have a border fence at other state lines. Though that might be their next idea. A border fence with Oregon, Nevada and Arizona to keep out guns they would buy as effective while one to keep out illegal immigrants would be a waste of money. In their defense if you are willing to "open" the gate and turn your back no "wall" is effective.
It's all part of the "propaganda" - and that's exactly what it is. It is similar to how "that crowd" has helped to emphasis the term semi-automatic and correlated it with phrases such as "a stream of bullets" to make the masses believe that semi-automatic is akin to a machine gun. I've had numerous conversations with people that believe "semi-automatic" operates "like a machine gun". I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the media either knowingly or through incompetence helps to propagate such falsehoods.
Some idiot named Beto came to the gun show in Conway just to have his picture taken in a gum show. He's already spinning it to his advantage. Mr. Orourke or whatever his name is, has personally vowed to eliminate private sales of guns in his bid for President.
He's only running as a Democrat because that's the nearest thing there is to socialism lite.
Universal Background Checks...the next step towards registration and confiscation.
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