FL Red Flags over 100 children, as young as 8

FL Red Flags over 100 children, as young as 8

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    FL Red Flags over 100 children, as young as 8

    According to a report at WFTX-TV, the Sunshine State's new confiscation law has been used to take away the gun rights of almost 2,500 of people in the state and at least 100 of those were children. According to the station's investigation, some of those kids were as young as 8. One 15 year old didn't even own a gun, not even a BB gun.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/kids-a...ers-in-florida

    Polk County Judge Bruce Smith attributed the number of orders against children to "the aggressive nature of our sheriff's department." Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the outlet that the orders are meant to serve as a message to parents. "First, it's to put the parents on notice that you got to do a really good job at securing your firearms, so your children can't get to it," Judd said, "and number two, it's putting the parents on notice about your kid's got an issue here." I don't recall either of those motives being mentioned as a rationales for Red Flag laws. This is clearly some megalomaniac sheriff twisting this law to his own sociopathic ends. Teaching parenting is not his job.

    So in case anyone thought Red Flag was a method to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, think again. What a law promises, what it says and how it can be used are three different things.
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    Red flag laws will be the end of the Second Amendment as we have always known it. Anyone, at any time, for any reason is subject to firearms seizure at the whim of whoever.
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    Now if I was a lawyer who could practice in FL I would find the parents of the children on the RF list and get a joint lawsuit going calling the state had defamed them by the listing and unjustly denied those children of their 2A Right. You have 2 A rights the day you are born even if you are too young to buy a gun.
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    Every perceived fear about Red Flag laws is coming to fruition. Somewhere, somehow, this all needs to be ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Red flag laws will be the end of the Second Amendment as we have always known it. Anyone, at any time, for any reason is subject to firearms seizure at the whim of whoever.
    I really hope you are wrong, but I fear you are not. If the libs take the senate and or the Presidency we are doomed!
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    I have a general question about red flag laws.

    Suppose you have a teenage child in you home who has threatened someone at school or written something that falls within the parameters of the red flag seizure guidelines. And suppose you own guns, not your sons, which you keep locked up in a quality safe. Can the "authorites" seize your firearms? Two things come to my mind that says not but then, nothing surprises me anymore.

    One. You are not the object of the complaint and concern. It is your child and not you. You have a clean record and are a long standing gun owner who enjoys hunting and shooting.

    Two. Your firearms are stored well with no one but you having access to them. Your safe was made by a well-known safe company who's products are solid and of high quality.

    So how might this come out?
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    I suggested it before, I'll suggest it again. It is high time a group of well-meaning FL citizens drop the dime on the good sheriff. After all, it would hardly be the first time a LEO has been called out for domestic violence or ill-intentioned threats.

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    We havent seen anything yet. RFL's are made to be abused.

    Think its bad now? Wait awhile after a few false flag events. Feel it around your neck as the noose tightens and think about your kids not being able to enjoy the freedoms that you had as a kid growing up.
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    "...We need to push along the ERPOs (Extreme Risk Protection Orders), so we have these red flag laws to supplement the use of the background check to find out if someone has some mental disturbance. This is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area to stop these massacres from happening in the first place."

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    This is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area
    BOOM...there it is. His own words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    "...We need to push along the ERPOs (Extreme Risk Protection Orders), so we have these red flag laws to supplement the use of the background check to find out if someone has some mental disturbance. This is the single most important thing I think we can do in the gun control area to stop these massacres from happening in the first place."

    William Barr, current Attorney General of the United States, during a confirmation hearing early this year.
    This is very disturbing. I have no problem with removing firearms from someone who is a felon, who is a known risk (as in demonstrated violent encounters in which the individual has been found to have caused the violence unjustifiably), and other similar situations. But NOT at the whim of some family member or neighbor who might have an ax to grind and sees such laws as avenues in which to render the victim defenseless and potentially charged with some manufactured crime.
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    Usually Sheriff Judd comes across as a good, real law and order kind of guy.

    This one "oh ****" just wiped out all his "atta boys" in my book.


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    When RFL's were first proposed, I wrote all my legislators and my lead-in was that these will be abused and that there needs to be protections and penalties against false reports if they insist on proceeding to develop RFL's. I never heard back from any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    I have a general question about red flag laws.

    Suppose you have a teenage child in you home who has threatened someone at school or written something that falls within the parameters of the red flag seizure guidelines. And suppose you own guns, not your sons, which you keep locked up in a quality safe. Can the "authorites" seize your firearms? Two things come to my mind that says not but then, nothing surprises me anymore.

    One. You are not the object of the complaint and concern. It is your child and not you. You have a clean record and are a long standing gun owner who enjoys hunting and shooting.

    Two. Your firearms are stored well with no one but you having access to them. Your safe was made by a well-known safe company who's products are solid and of high quality.

    So how might this come out?
    They would seize them. We've already seen an uncle's guns seized when the nephew didn't live in the same house and he didn't even have access to the safe! The nephew just "knew where" he could get guns.
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