Gun confiscation begins

Gun confiscation begins

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    Gun confiscation begins

    "Gov. Ralph Northam said a package of eight gun control bills will likely be passed in January when both state houses turn blue following the elections this week, adding that his administration is working on a plan to confiscate certain firearms from gun owners."

    Demoncrap Governor + Demoncrap House + Demoncrap Senate = IT BEGINS

    "Asked if he supports confiscating weapons from gun owners if the law banning them passes, Northam told reporters: “That’s something I’m working [on] with our secretary of public safety.”

    While Virginia currently has no laws requiring registration, a Triple Crown allows them to change laws in a hurry, including making the currently retained two years worth of background check consent forms available as at least partial registration information.
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    Things are likely to get pretty "sporty".
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    Quote Originally Posted by airslot View Post
    Things are likely to get pretty "sporty".
    Hope so as this may spread to other States like N.J,N.Y.,M.D and CA. Looks like libtards are on the March and We The People Need to Stand Up to this Unconstitutional ******** like NOW!!!. Our Republic is in Serious Danger!.
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    Here's the question.. If several heavily armed deputies arrive dressed in tactical with angry scowls demanding your ""illegal"" weapon whatever that is, what do you do??

    most of us will simply open the door sheepishly, let them in go through our collection and simply take whatever they are looking for.. Most likely to start, it will be "tactical looking" semis-Ak's AR's, and maybe shotguns with handles, Keltec Carbines, Hi points, and dozens of others because they have handles, and are scary looking, and black.. Then Mini 14's, other conventional semi long guns, because they shoot the same way as AR;s, AK's even though they don't look scary.

    Then semi pistols because they can shoot as many rounds as rifles.
    then Bolts and levers because they shoot high powered rounds.. Then Revolvers, then single shots.. you get the idea.. WE as a nation voted for this. We demanded it,, Simply getting what we demanded at the ballot box.. Those of us that did NOT vote for it, are simply outnumbered in the modern age.

    Its inevitable at this point i am sad to say.. There will be some states that last longer, but the radicals will take over there as well, in time... I am 65 years old. i truly expect to see socialism/communism before i go home.,as well as a total repeal of the 2nd Amendment .. It will come with dancing in the streets, and victory parties throughout the land.. We wanted it as a nation, demanded it, and its on the doorstep.. Virginia going down??.. 10 years ago, on this forum we all would have laughed at the notion... bob

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    When will people realize that these laws aren’t just about the 2nd Amendment. They are trampling almost the entire Bill of Rights under the guise of stopping “gun violence”, but aren’t doing anything to stop violence or fix the root causes.
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    I do not believe that gun confiscation will happen in VA. Northam, the Blackface, has already damaged his own credibility. Many wanted his resignation not because he wore Blackface in college but because the vehemently denied it until conclusive evidence came out. Then he fought off demands for resignation. The Dems have a marginal majority in the VA legislature. Not all of that majority are gun grabbers. Northam is toast, which is a little like Blackface, because he is a hypocrite.
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    If republicans were this determined to pass pro gun legislation maybe more people would turn out to vote for them.
    We get the government we deserve.

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    I remember when I tried to argue that our rights should not be limited by each state and a lot of people didn't like my comments because they lived in states that have more liberal laws. When one state is able to limit our rights then all of the states may follow suit. If we have rights as Americans then our rights should be protected by the federal government and be not doled out as each state sees fit. You can quote the second amendment all you want to but I will never feel like we have the RIGHT to bear arms as long as it is limited according to the laws of each state. Our rights should never be conditional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee View Post
    Here's the question.. If several heavily armed deputies arrive dressed in tactical with angry scowls demanding your ""illegal"" weapon whatever that is, what do you do??

    bob
    They're not doing that. They watch the residence (or whatever location), and when it's empty, they go in and collect weapons. Or they arrest you away from home in public, and then go get the guns - the 'Randy Weaver' tactic. You won't have a chance to resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterSmooth View Post
    ...They watch the residence (or whatever location), and when it's empty...they arrest you away from home in public..the 'Randy Weaver' tactic...[emphasis added]
    "The Randy Weaver tactic" was actually exactly the opposite. And that's very important.
    While law enforcement could have arrested Weaver while he was running an errand in the nearby town, that's exactly the opposite of what they actually did.

    Instead, they snuck up on his cabin and surrounded it while everybody was at home, inside. They set a sniper up, with a clear shot at the cabin's front door.
    Then they waited for a while.
    Finally, the Weaver's dog got a whiff of them, and began barking. So they shot the dog.
    Then, when Weaver's 'teenage son came out to see about the dog and the gunshot, the sniper shot him. That same bullet also killed Weaver's wife, while she was standing in the doorway, holding her youngest child.
    The standoff which resulted finally ended, after a lot of shooting, with Randy Weaver surrendering.

    At trial, Weaver was found not guilty.
    The sniper, also, was tried for having killed Weaver's wife. He, too, was judged not guilty!

    Randy Weaver was a bigot who believed in "White supremacy." Not a nice person.
    But he had committed a crime only as the result of entrapment by a government agent.
    Entrapment is an illegal tactic, which was why Weaver was judged not guilty.
    And the government had caused his (innocent) wife to die.

    Bigotry may be despicable, but it is not a crime.
    The government was as wrong about Weaver as it was in Waco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1911A1 View Post
    "The Randy Weaver tactic" was actually exactly the opposite. And that's very important.
    While law enforcement could have arrested Weaver while he was running an errand in the nearby town, that's exactly the opposite of what they actually did.

    Instead, they snuck up on his cabin and surrounded it while everybody was at home, inside. They set a sniper up, with a clear shot at the cabin's front door.
    Then they waited for a while.
    Finally, the Weaver's dog got a whiff of them, and began barking. So they shot the dog.
    Then, when Weaver's 'teenage son came out to see about the dog and the gunshot, the sniper shot him. That same bullet also killed Weaver's wife, while she was standing in the doorway, holding her youngest child.
    The standoff which resulted finally ended, after a lot of shooting, with Randy Weaver surrendering.

    At trial, Weaver was found not guilty.
    The sniper, also, was tried for having killed Weaver's wife. He, too, was judged not guilty!

    Randy Weaver was a bigot who believed in "White supremacy." Not a nice person.
    But he had committed a crime only as the result of entrapment by a government agent.
    Entrapment is an illegal tactic, which was why Weaver was judged not guilty.
    And the government had caused his (innocent) wife to die.

    Bigotry may be despicable, but it is not a crime.
    The government was as wrong about Weaver as it was in Waco.
    To the gun-hating, "progressive" left, we all look like Randy Weaver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    I do not believe that gun confiscation will happen in VA. Northam, the Blackface, has already damaged his own credibility. Many wanted his resignation not because he wore Blackface in college but because the vehemently denied it until conclusive evidence came out. Then he fought off demands for resignation. The Dems have a marginal majority in the VA legislature. Not all of that majority are gun grabbers. Northam is toast, which is a little like Blackface, because he is a hypocrite.
    Northam has nothing to lose. VA governors have a one term limit. He can't run for US Senate. Our two slots are filled and probably won't be vacated any time soon. His goal now is to court favor with Bloomberg for some sort of job in the next Dem administration in Washington. The blackface thing has died down.

    The Dems may only have a small majority, but they now control the committees. Than means these votes will go to the floor. There may be some Dems that would vote against confiscation, but we have had a few RINOs vote with the Dems in the past on guns.

    I would never say, "It can't happen here." And it will be a test case for any other state who would like to do it.
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    Yea welcome to Ole Virginia where we have a RACIST, governor, and a SEXUAL ABUSER as a Lt. governor, and as the State Police act as the gov's personal little army. they will come up with a way to do it, my Uncles who where true Troopers in every sense of the tilte are turning in their graves
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    Northam has nothing to lose. VA governors have a one term limit. He can't run for US Senate. Our two slots are filled and probably won't be vacated any time soon. His goal now is to court favor with Bloomberg for some sort of job in the next Dem administration in Washington. The blackface thing has died down.

    The Dems may only have a small majority, but they now control the committees. Than means these votes will go to the floor. There may be some Dems that would vote against confiscation, but we have had a few RINOs vote with the Dems in the past on guns.

    I would never say, "It can't happen here." And it will be a test case for any other state who would like to do it.
    Interesting insight about the Bloomberg connection. It sounds reasonable to me. However, if the Dems do have the votes to pass "Confiscation" they will be jumping in to a constitutional fight that they cannot win. Confiscation would be immediately challenged on grounds stemming from 2A, 4A, and 14A. In Miller v. Chicago (2010) The 14th was cited very specifically as a reason for Chicago's defeat. It brought in the 14th and Heller (2008) setting a precedent that VA would have to surmount, and I do. not think they could do it.

    Interesting article about th 14th and gun control can be read here.
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    Historically, this has never ended well. The very best outcome has been law abiding citizens becoming helpless victims of violence.

    Expand this course of action to 300,000,000 firearms, and it becomes catastrophic.
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