This doesnít sound so great for kentucky

This doesnít sound so great for kentucky

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    This doesnít sound so great for kentucky

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...ut-due-process

    For any kentucky readers the link includes a place where you can contact the law makers via email. I donít know if it does any good, but I always do it.
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    Contact your lawmakers with regularity!
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    I've contacted lawmakers numerous times. I have always received a reply however it's always been an obvious canned response in a form letter. I still think it's worth doing.
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    The Republicans in Kentucky have a veto proof super majority in the state house and senate that just pushed through constitutional carry this year. I don't see them buying into this red flag bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBXMan View Post
    The Republicans in Kentucky have a veto proof super majority in the state house and senate that just pushed through constitutional carry this year. I don't see them buying into this red flag bs.
    Beware the R that thinks RFLs are a good thing. It's not unheard of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    Beware the R that thinks RFLs are a good thing. It's not unheard of.
    There are even a few members on this forum that are for RFLs
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    When they were first discussed several years ago, I thought they were a workable solution to stopping objectively disturbed people. I naively believed they would be implemented with strong due process protections.

    But seeing how they are being implemented and abused, I am now strongly opposed to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    When they were first discussed several years ago, I thought they were a workable solution to stopping objectively disturbed people. I naively believed they would be implemented with strong due process protections.

    But seeing how they are being implemented and abused, I am now strongly opposed to them.
    As near as I can tell they are custom made for abuse and misuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    When they were first discussed several years ago, I thought they were a workable solution to stopping objectively disturbed people. I naively believed they would be implemented with strong due process protections.

    But seeing how they are being implemented and abused, I am now strongly opposed to them.
    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBXMan View Post
    The Republicans in Kentucky have a veto proof super majority in the state house and senate that just pushed through constitutional carry this year. I don't see them buying into this red flag bs.
    Thatís my hope, and while we still have majorities, Iíd feel a lot better if Bevin was still gonna be governor.

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    Here is an update on the situation. Kind of a long article, but this is where we stand. Also according to this, some republicans are in favor of this red flag bill.

    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...at/4269447002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    I've contacted lawmakers numerous times. I have always received a reply however it's always been an obvious canned response in a form letter. I still think it's worth doing.
    I wish I could give this 100 likes. It is worth doing. The VCDL has done some unscientific, but I still think reliable, research on this. First, it's important to understand what happens when you write a legislator. They get a lot of correspondence on all kinds of things constantly. They are not staffed to do custom responses. The value of the contact should not be judged on the response.

    It works like this: A communication comes in from a constituent urging the legislator to take a certain position on a certain topic or bill. A legislative aide summarizes the topic and position and adds it to a running log on topics and positions. Then the aide sends out the canned response. The legislators do look at those logs. The VCDL found that with state legislators, getting only 10 pieces of correspondence in a shot period of time on the same topic with the same recommended position is enough to get their attention. Just 10!

    That may or may not change their whole position, but it will likely influence the extent to which that legislator may push or oppose a piece of legislation, the extent to which they might compromise on it, and/or if they would suggest a modification to the provisions it to make it more palatable to their constituents.

    In Maine earlier this year, the Democratic trifecta wanted a red flag law. It got bargained down to a "yellow flag" law that required prior due process and an examination by a psyc. professional before any guns were taken. Not perfect, but a lot better than what was initially proposed.

    So all activism adds up even if it is frustrating and doesn't get a warm and fuzzy response.
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