First gun ban was today. In VA, bans Open Concealed carry on the capital grounds. INCLUDING POLICE, unless you work on the capital grounds and are in performcance of your duties.
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WOW! What ARROGANCE exhibited by this delegation. Basically, THEY are exempt from going through metal detectors, the Colonel of the Capital Police said it is not in his authority to go room-to-room to disarm the representatives, but all visitors and guests MUST pass through metal detectors because we want "everyone" to feel safe. So it's "Well, it's a sort of a gun-free zone, and sheriffs and other LEO's that aren't performing official duties must disarm, but we'll not make you pass through the same gates as those commoners (wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean? hint hint!)
Sounds to me like they KNOW the impact on public sentiment that the proposed bills of this upcoming session will generate, so they want to make sure the serfs don't rise up against them.
Not merely we plebs but some of their anointed servants must disarm as well. That is going further than any other such legislation that I am aware of having passed previously.
It seems that the threat from some Sheriff's to deputize plebs to defend their 2A rights is partially at the heart of including LEOs in this pronouncement from their Graces at the legislature.
She went kinda quick through that roll call. I thought I heard more than 5 no's, even still, I don't think I heard 9 of them. And yes, Gilbert was definitely swinging. And that spokesguy ... he seemed to be a graduate of the Robert Mueller school of public speaking.
Well, actually they can't either. While the Democrats lied and said the VA Capitol Police asked for this rule, the chief denied it. He said he had no problem with people carrying in the buildings. The Capitol Police have been very friendly to us through two Democratic administrations and many Lobby Days, I mean really nice. FWIW, the VA Capitol Police are America's oldest police department, going back to 1618. But on this new rule, they have a duty to enforce.
The governor is guarded by the Executive Protection Unit of the Virginia State Police, a completely different agency. The governor recently created a rule that members of his protection unit are limited to the same restrictions as a citizen with a CHL when off duty. So officers on his protection unit can't truly carry as off duty police officers like their fellow state police officers can.
Part of this new restriction against carrying in the legislative buildings applies to all law enforcement officers who are not in the building as part of their duties. So the State Police Executive Protection Unit could only carry in the legislative buildings if they were on duty and escorting the governor.
The new rule does not affect people on the capitol grounds ("thousands"), only people entering the buildings, where you have to go through metal detectors. People with guns won't get in to begin with. You can only squeeze about 1,000 people comfortably, 2,000 people max, into the office building, probably less into the capitol building.
They are proposing an actual law, which would ban all guns on the capitol grounds. But even if passed, that would not take effect until July 1. We'll see how that goes.
You get the government you vote for. I fought for good government for 67 years in NY. After awhile I just gave up and moved to Tennessee. Now trying to keep TN free. Dam it does not stop.
I often wonder what happened to these people in their younger years that make them so afraid of guns. What have they seen or heard? Stuff like "most of the mass shootings have happened in "gun free" areas?" I wonder if they have seen that?
Sometimes I wonder if it has more to do with what they have not seen (the variety of legal usages of guns)--so they can't quite fathom that guns are not just a tool of criminals. Of course, that's a separate category from those who want the population to be subjects rather than citizens (and that category always sees themselves in the ranks of the ruling class)--they're not afraid of guns so much as they are afraid of being unable to enforce their will upon their subjects.
I keep seeing this "in the performance of offical duties" clause used over and over again. What I rarely find is a definition of "in the performance of duties" means. Without a clear definition who get to decide?
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