VA Senate passes Red Flag legislation

VA Senate passes Red Flag legislation

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    VA Senate passes Red Flag legislation

    Apparently they didn't get the message.

    The bill passed the chamber in a narrow 21-19 vote and will next move to the state Housem of Delegates.

    Jake Rubenstein, a spokesman for Virginia House Speaker Eileen Filler-Corn, told CNN the House would "deliver" on a demand from voters for gun control measures.

    "Virginians spoke loud and clear on Election Day demanding common sense gun violence protections, and make no mistake, we will deliver on that mandate," Jake Rubenstein said.

    If passed, the bill would allow state attorneys or law enforcement officers to apply for a judge's order to "prohibit a person who poses a substantial risk of injury to himself or others from purchasing, possessing, or transporting a firearm."

    The bill is expected to be signed into law by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D), who has indicated support for stronger gun control measures, should it pass the House of Delegates later this session.
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    Heres hoping the house listened to the voters and will defeat it.
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    These people have the blinders on and are going to plow ahead no matter what. The initial fight will have to be done in the courts, trying to tie them up until the next election cycle.

    They say "elections have consequences". So does running rough shod over the citizens of the state.

    People all across the Country had better wake up and pay attention to the politics around them. Otherwise, this crap is going to spread like a wildfire.
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    I thought Virginians spoke loud and clear last Monday.
    Guess it fell on deaf ears.
    So whatís the next step for yíall in VA.now that peaceful demonstrations didnít work.
    Guess we will have to see when the state attorneys and State LEOís start coming for your guns in those sanctuary counties.
    I hope those Sheriffs are true to their pledges not to enforce unconstitutional laws.
    Will they stand between the citizens and the National Guard, State Troopers.
    I hate to be this pessimistic but it is looking more like a peaceful solution may not be in the cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Heres hoping the house listened to the voters and will defeat it.
    Unlikely unfortunately. The VA House tends to be more liberal and anti-gun than the Senate. But we can hope.
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    This is a sad day for Virginia. Unbelievable!
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    Dumb question-

    How come when "conservative" laws get passed, liberals can get a legal injunction before the ink is dry, but when "liberal" laws are passed, an injunction takes months or years (if ever) after the new law takes effect?
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    The meager 20,000 or so that showed up at the capitol are insignificant statistically. Especially so considering the politicians know that many of those were from out of state. Virginia has at least 8 million residents!

    Regardless, all any politician has to do is say "the people", my constituents, or some other nonsense that alludes to the majority. Who can counter that ambiguity? The only realistic way is to get these laws on a ballot. Let "the people" vote on them.

    Politicians don't do our bidding, they haven't in 200 years. That's made perfectly clear when they come out immediately with some form of BS feel good idea after a perfectly tragic event. They haven't had time to consult with their constituents! Not likely they would anyway. Representation for the people and by the people. What a laugh!
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    Republicans in Virginia needed to run candidates. Allowing races to go uncontested is beyond ridiculous. Even for races where a Republican might have been a sacrificial lamb running someone is almost always better than allowing a race to go uncontested. This will energize Republicans but will it be enough to turn things around next election?
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    My vote is NO. Too many urban dwellers that have no desire to let their neighbors have these scary killing entities in their homes. Because the uninformed masses still think it's the gun that kills people....

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    VA Senate passes Red Flag legislation

    One hope with this bill is that, considering all the sanctuary cities and counties, there will not be LE requesting let alone enforcing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebleyHunter View Post
    Dumb question-

    How come when "conservative" laws get passed, liberals can get a legal injunction before the ink is dry, but when "liberal" laws are passed, an injunction takes months or years (if ever) after the new law takes effect?
    The judges are as liberal, or more so, as the clowns passing this BS.
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    I applaud all the folks that put so much effort into the Va. rally Monday. Sadly it will change nothing. The legislation that has been introduced will get passed. The dems and the anti-gun money people have way too much invested in this to let the opportunity slip away.
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    And this jackass, Chris Hurst, VA Delegate and gun control advocate said, "I was prepared to see a whole lot more people show up than actually did and I think it's an indication that a lot of this rhetoric is bluster, quite frankly." He pretty much dismissed the whole event as a non-event.

    After reading that, I doubt the rally will have any effect on the pending gun control bills or future bills that may be introduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebleyHunter View Post
    Dumb question-

    How come when "conservative" laws get passed, liberals can get a legal injunction before the ink is dry, but when "liberal" laws are passed, an injunction takes months or years (if ever) after the new law takes effect?
    That's what happens when liberal presidents get to appoint federal judges. Decades of these judges block most common sense laws.
    That is why it is so important that trump wins 2020, he has done an excellent job of putting in conservative leaning judges to balance out the lunacy.
    Also a big reason they hate Trump, not so much his rhetoric of his Russian ties. They fear what he is doing to their precious courts.
    They have the media tied up and used to have the courts also. If they lose the courts, HUGE blow for their agenda
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