P95Carry said:I'd agree with Ed.
But is this a 20 or 50? If the latter I would fire off 10 and use that as a benchmark to reassure that rest are good - otherwise maybe just 5.
Little doubt after average storage conditions they'll go bang every time.
Dont forget they can take out satellites too!rocky said:sell em on ebay or gunbroker for big $$$ . After all Armor piercing, HP, exploding , elephant stopping rounds are nasty. Did I forget cop killing?
Not sure about Gold dot. Since the recall on hard primers. Also they marked lots of ammo with a sticker reading not for LE use. To me this means possible bad primers or other problems. No warning against self defense use on the box though. Sounds like they are trying to unload ammo on the unsuspecting.F350 said:I am carrying BTs in my 9mm, 10mm and .45, I probably have 8 of the small boxes between all 3 calabers, I have fired a few in the past year and all were just fine.
Maybe I should replace them with Double Tap Gold Dots and set them back as a retirement investment, nothing else seems to be going up in value :danceban:
Slight difference here....what I am referring to is a company called "Double Tap" http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php he loads the Gold Dot bullet. He loads any given cartridge to higher velocity than the big manufacturers, he loads the 10mm to the original specs, not the down loaded rounds everyone else does to protect those antiquated steel frame guns.Not sure about Gold dot. Since the recall on hard primers. Also they marked lots of ammo with a sticker reading not for LE use. To me this means possible bad primers or other problems. No warning against self defense use on the box though. Sounds like they are trying to unload ammo on the unsuspecting.
theyre not even close to being "as good as folks say". are they an effective defensive round? sure. are they any better than whats available today? no. marketing followed by media hype took a good bullet and turned it into the most loved/hated bullet of all time......but thats all it is.....hype. the black talon is essentially the same bullet as the ranger sxt. its not black and it doesnt have the reputation, but its the same and to the best of my knowledge neither has ever been offered in +P loads. its equivalent to the hydra-shok....not the hardest hitter, but still a first rate defensive round. i wouldnt hesitate to depend on a black talon to defend my life, but even if they were available today at a reasonable price i would prefer an xtp or a corbon due to their superior numbers.Sig229 said:Are these rounds really as good as folks say?
Kinda showes the level of wikipedia's knowlege "rit thar don't it":hand5: :buttkick: :spankme:adding a black nickel anti-corrosion coating to the brass casings
since i prefer +P loads ive never played with the sxt, but i wasnt aware that there was a restricted LE version. i know the box may be labelled "law enforcement ammunition" because they sell it on the shelf at my local gun store for anyone to buy. i cant find anything on the web that states or even suggests that sales of this ammunition are restricted to law enforcement. have you got a source on this? im not questioning your knowledge, im just looking for clarity.Tom357 said:IIRC, the Ranger SXT is the evolution from the original Black Talon, has six 'petals' and talons, and is primarily made available to LE. The 'civilian' SXT has 8 'petals' and no talons.
i agree completely. i see black talons at the local gun shows selling for $65 a box (20 rounds!) and people line up to pay it. i just chuckle to myself, think "suckers", and stock up on corbons at $15 a box.1Zach1 said:Current Hollow Point design is much better then that of the Black Talon