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"On April 11, 1986 at 0945 hours, an incident occurred that would ultimately turn law enforcement on its head. About an hour earlier, a group of FBI agents initiated a rolling stakeout in search of two robbery and homicide suspects. A vehicle stolen from a shooting victim had been identified. The suspect vehicle was located and a felony stop was initiated. During the stop, the suspect vehicle was forced off the road. The two suspects emerged from their vehicles and opened fire with a shotgun, .223 caliber rifle, and two .357 caliber revolvers. The ensuing gun battle resulted in the deaths of the two suspects as well as two FBI agents. Five other agents were wounded in the battle. The tactics employed, weapons used, and physical and physiological reactions of those involved sparked huge changes in the law enforcement world."
 

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The full report and summary conclusions should be required reading for anyone who carries a gun.
 

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I have personally seen the uncut video of this tragedy. My ex-wife's cousin worked and retired from the FBI in Miami-Dade and knew everyone of the agents and still has the film.
 

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I have a copy of the video form the re-enactment of the chase and shootout. Lots to learn from it and so sorry for the losses, but lessons well learned from it.
 

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"On April 11, 1986 at 0945 hours, an incident occurred that would ultimately turn law enforcement on its head. About an hour earlier, a group of FBI agents initiated a rolling stakeout in search of two robbery and homicide suspects. A vehicle stolen from a shooting victim had been identified. The suspect vehicle was located and a felony stop was initiated. During the stop, the suspect vehicle was forced off the road. The two suspects emerged from their vehicles and opened fire with a shotgun, .223 caliber rifle, and two .357 caliber revolvers. The ensuing gun battle resulted in the deaths of the two suspects as well as two FBI agents. Five other agents were wounded in the battle. The tactics employed, weapons used, and physical and physiological reactions of those involved sparked huge changes in the law enforcement world."
Thanks for reminding us of this day. We all know the lessons, but often fail to remember how they came to pass.
 

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I have read much about this encounter. Many mistakes made. Never underestimate your enemy.
 

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I just watched the video on YouTube.
Wow.
I am speechless.
 

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This event gave birth to the 10mm Kurz! Most LEOs carry the round as it is known as the .40 S&W! :yup:

Also give us the story that the FBI were not skilled enough to handle the recoil from a full load 10mm so they developed the lighter load of the .40 S&W! :blink: That is always good enough to start a girly man debate! :image035:
 
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...after watching these videos...tell me that a .32 or .380 is enough...tell me there's no reason for a civilian to carry a backup...tell me you don't need spare ammo...the FBI spends unlimited amounts of time and ammo training and are among the best...but look what happened here and tell me what's enough...
...no, we're not all LEOs, but that makes it all the more likely that help won't be near if we ever get into trouble...there's wishin', there's hopin', there's prayin'...and there's PREPARIN'...we oughta be about doin' ALL of the above...
 

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Did this incident cause the 1986 automatic weapons law?
No the automatic weapons law was passed in 1934 and requires the tax stamp to own a automatic weapon.

The 1986 was the assault weapons band.
 

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Actually, 1986 was the ban on civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons made after that date.

1996 was the assault weapons ban.
 

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Checked these two robbers had an interesting history. One had been a Marine the other an Army Ranger. Not your average thugs but who knows what ticket you draw?
 
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