357 Sig or 10mm?
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I believe it is easier to find self defense loads in 357Sig than in 10mm. I have also heard that many manufacturers do not load 10mm to full capacity. I carry a Full Size S&WM&P357Sig with Crimson Trace laser grip daily. I like the platform and also the performance of the 125gr Speer Gold Dot. It is really up to personal preference and what works best for the individual.
I swapped my Sig P226 40cal barrel with .357SIG after shooting about 300rds of 40cal. Never went back after that. In fact, I found shortky thereafter that I shoot better with .357SIG. Can't compare to 10mm because I have no experience with 10mm. I do agree that .357SIG ammo is more readily available.
CA allows 3 guns on a CCW. If I had just one choice, it would be .357SIG with 45 a close second choice. That's just my own personal preference.
One of my CHP L.E. friends is a big .357SIG fan but unfortunately it's not CHP-issued.
CA allows 3 guns on a CCW. If I had just one choice, it would be .357SIG with 45 a close second choice. That's just my own personal preference.
One of my CHP L.E. friends is a big .357SIG fan but unfortunately it's not CHP-issued.
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.357sig because in some of the new handguns you have the option of switching to the 40cal (such as the S&W M&P:image035
this is nice because the .357sig ammo is hard to find (but not as hard as the 10mm.) You can practice shooting with the 40cal ammo... then carry with the .357sig (is the bullet ballistics what your looking at? because they are almost the same .357sig/40/10mm) different load types can do what other loads do in other calibers.
I have done alot of ballistics research and testing. I went with the 40cal for the test results.... but I now have the ability to switch to the .357sig whenever i want (not that i think i ever will, but time will tell) good luck... look up some stats and info it will help make up your mind.
this is nice because the .357sig ammo is hard to find (but not as hard as the 10mm.) You can practice shooting with the 40cal ammo... then carry with the .357sig (is the bullet ballistics what your looking at? because they are almost the same .357sig/40/10mm) different load types can do what other loads do in other calibers.I have done alot of ballistics research and testing. I went with the 40cal for the test results.... but I now have the ability to switch to the .357sig whenever i want (not that i think i ever will, but time will tell) good luck... look up some stats and info it will help make up your mind.
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I still like the 10MM. I don't think recoil is as bad as folks say. Muzzle flash and report is about the same with full house loads. I wonder how long it will be before watered down 357 SIG rounds become the standard. Lots of folks don't like full house powerful rounds. I am sure that you will always be able to find full power 357 SIG rounds, but would not be surpised if rounds loaded down to 9MM ballistic doesn't become the norm.
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The 10mm has the advantage of being probably the best semi auto handgun cartridge made.
The .357 has the advantage of being made in much smaller handguns that are more suitable for concealed carry than a 10mm, which by necessity are made in large full sized guns.
If someone made a KelTec sized 10mm, I but it in a heartbeat but right now all of the 10's are full sized handguns.
The .357 has the advantage of being made in much smaller handguns that are more suitable for concealed carry than a 10mm, which by necessity are made in large full sized guns.
If someone made a KelTec sized 10mm, I but it in a heartbeat but right now all of the 10's are full sized handguns.
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I have always been a fan of the 10mm and I feel that both are fine cartridges. IMHO reloading is "better" with 10mm than 357sig. I will concede that a 357sig going down range sounds more psychologically intimidating.
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Well, if ammo availability is a concern, it seems you'll have an easier time with .357 sig than you will 10mm, at least as far as target/training rounds are concerned.
Although both can easily be found online, I'd prefer something I can run to walmart and grab a few boxes of when I start running low.
Although both can easily be found online, I'd prefer something I can run to walmart and grab a few boxes of when I start running low.
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If you're just looking for another caliber, go with 10mm. You already have 4 chamberings under 40 cal, and ballistically speaking, you don't have any gaping "holes" in your lineup... at least with respect to self defense. The .357 Sig adds nothing that your .357 Mag doesn't have, nor little more than what a 9mm +P+ offers. The 10mm gives you another 40-ish hole and a selection of heavier bullets for penetration. It's a good choice in an auto-pistol platform for outdoorsmen.
With defensive handguns in six calibers already, I find myself thinking along the lines of inventory... maintaining supplies of both practice and carry ammo in a bunch of different calibers can become a chore.
With defensive handguns in six calibers already, I find myself thinking along the lines of inventory... maintaining supplies of both practice and carry ammo in a bunch of different calibers can become a chore.
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Me I carry a Glock 19 9mm
357 SIG and 10MM are pretty expensive to practice with.
I have shot a bunch of 10mm and a fair amount of .357 SIG.
I just don't see any advantage to civilian CCW with either.
If I was issued either and shot OPA (other peoples ammo) both are good calibers.
But for me I like a 9mm
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357 SIG and 10MM are pretty expensive to practice with.
I have shot a bunch of 10mm and a fair amount of .357 SIG.
I just don't see any advantage to civilian CCW with either.
If I was issued either and shot OPA (other peoples ammo) both are good calibers.
But for me I like a 9mm
Mike
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this is true^^^ and the M&P is one of the BEST platforms
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Seems like adding another caliber would put more strain on the budget.
Not that I'm criticizing. I've got .38/.357, 9mm and .22wmr. Not to mention 7.62x39, .410 and .22lr.
I'd shop around a bit, and see if you like anything you already have ammo for. There's plenty of good compact guns in those.
.357sig is cheaper, and WalMart usually has some in stock. At least they do locally.
Not that I'm criticizing. I've got .38/.357, 9mm and .22wmr. Not to mention 7.62x39, .410 and .22lr.
I'd shop around a bit, and see if you like anything you already have ammo for. There's plenty of good compact guns in those.
.357sig is cheaper, and WalMart usually has some in stock. At least they do locally.
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Owning both and having carried a S&W 1076 on duty for a few years I prefer the 357sig round. Most LE Agencies using it report like a 99% one stop shot ratio with the Speer Gold Dot 125jhp LE round. The sig gives you a push backwards with virtually no muzzle flip allowing you to get back on target very quickly and has a very flat trajectory which is good for longer shots. They are both expensive rounds to shoot but the 10mm can beat you up pretty good depending on what round you use and can be a bear to get back on target fast. Another advantage pointed out is that with most of the guns on the market you can do a simple barrel change and have a 40s&w, with the M&P you can also get a 9mm barrel provided you have 9mm mags. Three guns in one, thats what I call a good deal.
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