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My latest toy...Palmetto State 9mm Billet (Glock mags) lower, 7.5" upper w / 6" M-lok handguard.
Sig SBX arm brace
Magpul AFG foregrip
Magpul MOE K2 + grip
Magpul MBUS flip-up sights
ALG Defense ACT fire control group
Primary Arms 2 MOA Micro Dot w / riser
 

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I'd like to hear a full range report on this one. I'm very interested in building the exact same thing.
 
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I've got one of similar build, without the brace, and it's one of the most fun guns I own to shoot. Recoil is soft enough that you don't need the brace, I just bring the buffer tube to my cheek and let it eat. I would like to stamp it and put a real stock on it, along with a folding stock adapter. Would make a great backpack gun.
 
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Don't think that those are legal in Illinois. Was at a range one day and the range master told a guy that he couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle.
 

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Couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle?

Do you mean a pistol grip like an AR or a vertical fore end grip or a fore end grip on his pistol?

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Don't think that those are legal in Illinois. Was at a range one day and the range master told a guy that he couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle.
 

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Don't think that those are legal in Illinois. Was at a range one day and the range master told a guy that he couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle.
My 995TS has a pistol grip. And a fore end grip. There's a lot of them out there. 16 1/2 barrel and it's legal as far as I know. I think my FFL would've told me if it wasn't. Maybe not allowed at that range.
 

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My wife wanted an AR but mine was to heavy for her so I built her a shorter lighter AR 9mm pistol a couple years back and used a regular Aero Precision upper and lower with a 9mm adaptor , 10.5" Gm barrel and rock river hand guard . Remaining pistol parts were picked for a bargain shopping around . Sig brace was legal to shoulder at that time !! . It now has a single point sling on it to go with the primary arms 2moa dot and a small laser on top where her thmb would rest when shooting .

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Don't think that those are legal in Illinois. Was at a range one day and the range master told a guy that he couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle.
Lucky for the OP this is a pistol, not a rifle. 7.5" barrel, no stock. I assume it is registered as a pistol in IL.
 

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I'd like to hear a full range report on this one. I'm very interested in building the exact same thing.
atctimmy, it took about 6 rounds to get the PA red dot sighted in. This was a blast to shoot and very easy to stay on target out to 25 yards, (max at indoor range). No failure to feed or fire. My son-in-law that was shooting with me said it was throwing brass like he was under supressive fire. :image035:
 

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Don't think that those are legal in Illinois. Was at a range one day and the range master told a guy that he couldn't have a pistol grip on his rifle.
GpTom, I'm in Tennessee and this was built as a pistol. No issue with the pistol grip here.
 

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Pretty sure a VERTICAL fore end grip would not be legal on this weapon without a stamp. Would be considered an SBR I believe.
 
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Nope, wouldn't be considered an SBR. It would be considered a violation of the Federal Firearms Act. Yet you're right, the pictured example is not vertical, therefore comPLETELY unrestricted. :yup:
 

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Nice pistol OP! Should OC it and let us know what kind of looks you get. :danceban:
 

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Nope, wouldn't be considered an SBR. It would be considered a violation of the Federal Firearms Act. Yet you're right, the pictured example is not vertical, therefore comPLETELY unrestricted. :yup:
I stand corrected! The NFA determination, if one were to attach the vertical fore grip to a pistol, is that it constitutes an unregistered AOW, not an SBR.
 

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I stand corrected! The NFA determination, if one were to attach the vertical fore grip to a pistol, is that it constitutes an unregistered AOW, not an SBR.
Bingo! I'm not a lawyer, but I watch a lot of old Perry Mason re-runs. :biggrin2:
 

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Bingo! I'm not a lawyer, but I watch a lot of old Perry Mason re-runs. :biggrin2:
Ha, good one!!

That wouldn't have helped anyway. Perry Mason's career ended in 1967 BEFORE the Gun Control Act of 1968.....
 
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