[GoldenSaber]

If you carry I highly suggest you read this article. Real world stuff with REALITY thrown in vs. hype and bravado if and when the day ever comes and your facing a real bad guy...

United States Concealed Carry Association

 

[scgunlover1]

Thanks for posting the link to the article. I thought it was a great read.

 

[kellyII]

Really good read, full of WHAT IF'S it will get alot of people thinking about how and what they might do or how they may handle a possible perp

 

[ajohn151]

Very informative article. Thank you for the post!

 

[automatic slim]

Certainly answers the question of "why shouldn't I open carry"?

 

[semperfi.45]

An old training quote is that success is "20% skills and 80% strategy".

When life is on the line, you will not rise to the occasion, you will default to the level of your training.

No kidding yourself here, you will fight like you train, not because you read it in an article. Simunition or Airsoft shines in this training. Put off buying your next real gun and get a Sim gun with friends and you'll have a lot of fun and learn a lot about your performance level.

Tactical advantage #1 should be understanding and employing the OODA Loop / Boyd's Cycle. Because whether it's fists or guns, it's philosophy is what win's confrontations.

 

[Hubadub]

Anyone reading this article will come away from it a wiser person. Great insight into human nature and the problems you might face other than the BG himself. I hope all members read this. Thanks for a wonderful post.

 

[aimhigh]

Thanks for the info!

 

[rodc13]

It's a good article. Principles we already know, but it's always good to review and in a good format to pass along. Thanks!

 

[maxwell]

Thanks for the info.

 

[GoldenSaber]

It's a good article. Principles we already know, but it's always good to review and in a good format to pass along. Thanks!

Rod, honestly, principles I believe a lot don't know. This isn't a follow up flame post but just speaking out loud after reading your post. Look at a bunch of the posts on this site alone... look how many daily are writing they just got their CWP or OCP... or are waiting, or are taking their wives to class, or are asking about guns. Some you can tell carry and are seeking opinions and input, others you can tell are just starting. In my state alone 15,000 a month are sending in their completed CWP applications with 600,000+ already legal to carry. Everyone has to start somewhere, as we all did, and I applaud everyone doing it and encourage it. However, I guarantee that 98% have never read anything like this, nor even considered some of this stuff. I hope the article shed's some light on the need to take it a step further to understand what you might really be faced with should you decide to carry (as well as the need to further ones ability and not just on a gun range). The scene in the quick in the dead with Gene Hackman and Leonardo DiCaprio comes to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53rpoyfRx8&feature=PlayList&p=F681B58A098E4CFF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=15

 

[Carvin66]

Great article, thanks for posting it.

 

[RETSUPT99]

Good read! Thanks...:hand10:

 

[tbmccord]

Rod, honestly, principles I believe a lot don't know.

GoldenSaber, I am not certain if every instructor teaches this in Texas but I know that my Concealed Handgun License (CHL) Instructor did. I am an NRA instructor and will be a CHL instructor next year. Texas only certifies CHL instructors once each year in June. My wife had knee replacement surgery during the middle of the 40 hour class this year and I had to miss it.

He had a different name for it: Situational Stress. The description was exactly the same.

Any comments from any other Texas CHL holders as to whether it was part of your class or not?

 

[vn6869]

Good read. Definitely worth taking note.

 

[GoldenSaber]

GoldenSaber, I am not certain if every instructor teaches this in Texas but I know that my Concealed Handgun License (CHL) Instructor did. I am an NRA instructor and will be a CHL instructor next year. Texas only certifies CHL instructors once each year in June. My wife had knee replacement surgery during the middle of the 40 hour class this year and I had to miss it.

He had a different name for it: Situational Stress. The description was exactly the same.

Any comments from any other Texas CHL holders as to whether it was part of your class or not?

In Florida the CWP class can be over in 4 hours. Very little actual talk of stress, reactions, etc... Honestly, it is very basic with the most standard answers to questions. Focus is mainly on the state laws pertaining to carry and what you can and can't do. A "single" shot from a real gun / or blank gun qualifies you. Then we're free to go forth and carry. The rest is up to us.

 

[FlyboyLDB]

I call bunk on the author's assumptions. Look at his #3 advice - Can't out draw a drawn gun. That takes care of why not to concealing in #1. You would stand a better tactical advantage with OCing in a situation where the perp already has his gun drawn - quicker draw times.

For those that have open carried know that the majority never even notices you are carrying - even when your strong side faces them. So the chance of a criminal coming in, with a task already in mind, scanning the store for people wearing guns is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. And even if a perp had the thought of scanning for people open carrying - everything would have to be exactly in the perp's favor - the perps entering the store at the proper time the person open carrying was in sight - then the strong side would have to be presented to the perps - eyes of perps would have to travel to strong side and see gun - all the while forgetting about task at hand - the person open carrying not seeing the perps about to come in. I could go on.

The guy that wrote this article is full mis-information - period.

 

[Faitmaker]

Been a member. I get the magazine. Good reads. I like it.

FlyboyLDB - You state an opinion and he states and opinion. I don't disagree with either of you because it depends on the person. To say that the article is full of mis-information while citing one point you don't agre with..... ok.

I like the site.

 

[The Arverni]

Regarding concealed vs. open, my $.02. The "edge" of being concealed may be somewhat overstated in the article versus real life. I just don't hear of open carriers being preemptively gunned down, *yet*. I think the perp would take his "business" elsewhere if he had yet to reveal his cards. After all, that OC could be a lawman, and the stakes go up considerably when you gun down a LEO. However, the net benefit granted by concealed carry would be greatly enhanced in a world where the thing the crook wanted (to kill for) was in-fact the $800 gun on your hip. I don't think we're there yet, but I'm under the impression that such places exist, and if things get worse, who knows? There seem to be strong opinions on either side. I carry concealed, for a myriad of reasons that go beyond the convenience store scenario. Great article; thanks for posting it.

 

[highoctane]

Interesting read. Thanks for posting.