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Well, sorta. I hurt myself falling over backwards when I read a very liberal local news writer agree with us (sorta).


Sheriff's gun policy makes sense
Posted at 12:09 AM on Thursday, Dec. 10, 2009
By Bill McEwen / The Fresno Bee

The best gift for a law-abiding citizen this Christmas might be a concealed-weapons permit.
Even though Fresno police always are putting out press releases that claim crime is down, the city doesn't feel safe. Nor does it appear safe. Not on my side of town, at least. Not south of McKinley Avenue.
Look, there was a time when I believed that more guns led to more violence.
Now, in my gut, I have to agree with Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims. She says that a society is safer when responsible people bear arms.
"I think it's a good idea to keep the bad guys guessing so that they never know when they're coming up against a citizen who is carrying," Mims says.

On the radio Listen to Bill McEwen's talk show daily at noon on KYNO (AM 1300).

Under California law, each sheriff can issue a concealed-weapons permit to anyone with a clean record who has "good cause." Some sheriffs are stingy with permits. Others, such as Mims, believe the permits should go to any eligible person.
For Mims, " 'Good cause' is, I can't put a deputy sheriff with every single citizen."
I don't have a gun and I've never applied for a permit to carry one. But this is going to change. In a city where no one is safe from the Bulldogs street gang, every responsible adult should think about carrying a gun.
Consider what happened this week at Palm and Belmont Avenues: Richard Hernandez, 27, married and the father of two children, was murdered at 6 o'clock in the morning.
Hernandez, a deliveryman for Valley Wide Beverage Co., simply was doing his job when, according to police, he was shot in the back for no apparent reason by Joey Jesse Lopez, also 27, a Bulldog gang-banger.
Understand: Hernandez wasn't robbed. There are animals on our streets who don't need a reason to kill other than that's what they want to do. The only thing they understand is the power of a gun, which is why it's best that honest people take up arms.
Advocates for strict gun control raise valid concerns about a proliferation of weapons leading to accidental shootings, particularly involving children. But permit-holders must pass background checks and gun-safety courses in which they are taught how to avoid mishaps. In the end, I think the benefits outweigh the risks.
Back in the mid-1990s, then-City Council Member Bob Lung proposed a revised gun ordinance that would grant a concealed-weapons permit to any applicant satisfying the state standard of "good moral character."
The idea was the talk of the town for several months, with anti-gun forces threatening lawsuits if Lung got his way. Eventually, the council passed a compromise version giving the police chief discretion to decide who received a permit.
But Mims attracted little media attention during her 2006 run for sheriff when she made it clear that it would be easier to get a concealed weapon permit if she were elected.
"But that was one of the first questions asked at every debate," Mims said. "People wanted to know about the permits."
And they still want to know.
Since she was sworn in three years ago, Mims' office has issued 1,134 carry permits, and there are now 2,786 active permits in Fresno County. As of 4 p.m. Tuesday, there were a total of 28,121 concealed weapons permits in force in California, according to the state Department of Justice -- meaning that Fresno County residents account for nearly 10% of the permit-holders.
Mims says that there was a logjam of applications early in her term. Her office, which conducts background checks for the permits, has since caught up with the demand. Get this: the sheriff keeps applications in her car for people who want to carry a concealed gun.
No wonder Mims was named "Outstanding Peace Officer of the Year" last month by the California Rifle and Pistol Association, an affiliate of the National Rifle Association.
Now, I don't agree with much of what the NRA advocates. For example, I can't think of a single reason anyone -- other than law enforcement -- needs an assault rifle.
But I believe in a person's right to defend himself. I believe, too, that an armed society is a polite society.




The columnist can be reached at [email protected] or (559) 441-6632. His blog is at
 

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Well, he kinda gets it and it's surprising, especially for a journalist from Ca...
 

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Yes, he does 'kind of' get it, and he doesn't realize what equates to an AR rifle....but he is learning.:congrats:
 

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Now, I don't agree with much of what the NRA advocates. For example, I can't think of a single reason anyone -- other than law enforcement -- needs an assault rifle.
But I believe in a person's right to defend himself. I believe, too, that an armed society is a polite society.
He doesn't "get it" at all.

Like most Liberals that are self centered, he only agrees with something that he all of a sudden decides that it to his benefit to be armed, because he scared. For him its an embarrasing matter of convience.

He is still an anti gun idiot.He is dangerous. We have some here on this board like him. He simply isn't smart enough to grasp the big picture because his thought processes have been contaminated with liberal propaganda for too long.
 

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this is kind of ground breaking to me!
 

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CVA vs. KS

"Since she was sworn in three years ago, Mims' office has issued 1,134 carry permits, and there are now 2,786 active permits in Fresno County. As of 4 p.m. Tuesday, there were a total of 28,121 concealed weapons permits in force in California, according to the state Department of Justice -- meaning that Fresno County residents account for nearly 10% of the permit-holders."

Sedgwick County Kansas has about 5,000 CCH licensed and the State of Kansas has about 24,000 with 1/10 the population of California.

CCH Statistics - Updated 12/09/09

*Licenses Issued by County - Update 12/09/09

These just updated so my numbers may be off just a little.
 

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Lets keep the heat on them, eventually they will learn, usually the hard way......But then the best lessons learned are always the hard ones.
 

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He doesn't "get it" at all.

Like most Liberals that are self centered, he only agrees with something that he all of a sudden decides that it to his benefit to be armed, because he scared. For him its an embarrasing matter of convience.

He is still an anti gun idiot.He is dangerous. We have some here on this board like him. He simply isn't smart enough to grasp the big picture because his thought processes have been contaminated with liberal propaganda for too long.
Agreed. He doesn't "get it" at all. if he did, he'd be writing about how HE applied and received a CCW permit because he believes that self defense is proper and appropriate given the lawless situation in Fresno AND the fact that he has a right to bear arms and self defense.

However, what he wrote ain't half bad all things considered.
 

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I’m very pleased to hear this California media type’ has the courage to stand up and say what I believe a lot of California residents truly believe. The tide is changing and far too many citizens, regardless of demographics, are loosing friends, co-workers and relatives to street crime. Perhaps other California Sheriffs will become less afraid to issue permits. Since Sheriff Mims was brave enough to fall on her sword, the other weaker Sheriffs may follow. I truly commend Bill McEwen for his contribution.
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No, he does not "get it". All he gets is that he can use a portion of the law to his benefit, and does not give one small damn about anyone else. That's a typical liberal anti firearm attitude. He will just join the ranks of the elite pols who have a permit for their own safety, but don't think the great unwashed deserve the same benefit.
 

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He doesn't "get it" at all.

Like most Liberals that are self centered, he only agrees with something that he all of a sudden decides that it to his benefit to be armed, because he scared. For him its an embarrasing matter of convience.

He is still an anti gun idiot.He is dangerous. We have some here on this board like him. He simply isn't smart enough to grasp the big picture because his thought processes have been contaminated with liberal propaganda for too long.
Yes, your right, but better that he understands and agrees even if it's through the act of fear making him understand right? It's far better that he understands where we are coming from then not to understand no matter what that reason may be.

I'm glad he's at least getting somewhat a clue, let's give him that much.
 

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The reporter may not get it, but at least the Sheriff gets it. Its a start. On to the rest of the state. :image035:
 

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Now, I don't agree with much of what the NRA advocates. For example, I can't think of a single reason anyone -- other than law enforcement -- needs an assault rifle.
The NRA is the one that "get's it." They're fighting for 2A and like us, are sick of all the anti's trying to be our mommies. What's it to them, what single reason THEY can think of for anyone to have an "assault" rifle. By the way, the word assault just scares people but like someone's sig on this forum says, "Assault is a behavior, not a device." Hell, I have a Ruger #1, 375 H &H mag. that could assault someone, but not all by itself. We're responsible people, we don't need mommies. I don't know why in the world anyone would want a VW Bug either because I wouldn'thave one. But I sure wouldn't try to stop anyone from getting one. It's NONE of my business. And, I'm sure people have been killed in and by them too. You know, the dreaded "Assault Beetles." :twak:
 

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Wow, you know that things have finally got bad, when the libs can't move and stay and work and play away from the diversity that they advocate and love so much, being so in touch. Maybe, they will also want to control our borders and have illegal aliens obey police orders.
 

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To some, he gets it, to others, he doesn't. But I think its pretty safe to say that in either case its a positive step.

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He doesn't "get it" at all.
Like most Liberals that are self centered, he only agrees with something that he all of a sudden decides that it to his benefit to be armed, because he scared. For him its an embarrasing matter of convience.

He is still an anti gun idiot. He is dangerous. We have some here on this board like him. He simply isn't smart enough to grasp the big picture because his thought processes have been contaminated with liberal propaganda for too long.[/QUOTE]

He does, a little. What he "gets" is that gun control doesn't reduce crime, and in fact makes it easier for the criminals. It just MIGHT get him to question other "facts" that he has so readily accepted as well. It may not be much, but it's a start.

You're not going to get an instant change. This is a tiny first step - and in Fresno, of all places. We SHOULD be happy about it.
 
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