I am with you P95Carry, it is shamefull when an organization wants to be in line with the left to fit in at national meetings. It is how they appear at events that is important, not how well do they do their jobs. Oh well sometimes it is ok to just throw things away and not worry about them, more important stuff to do today. See you and did I just hear your bike fall over in the garage???? :smile: Naw!!!!