I never left .40 S&W :biggrin2:
No doubt that .45 would handle anything 2 legged, 4 legged or slithering and sliding in my swamps. .45 has always been in my stable, no matter what else I carried. It just might be time to go .45 all the way. I only have 2 years until retirement so I’ll be on my own then. And my confidence in .45 ACP has never faltered. I just wish most of them were easier to pack. My G30S ain’t bad, and my XDS .45 is really sweet.You're not a dinosaur! Just carry your Glock 30 w/ your WML and call it good! The .45 acp should work well on anything crawling or walking the bayous and swamps! Good luck!
There is always the G-30S or Shield .45 which is very slim and easy to carry with as much capacity as the venerable 1911! Good luck!No doubt that .45 would handle anything 2 legged, 4 legged or slithering and sliding in my swamps. .45 has always been in my stable, no matter what else I carried. It just might be time to go .45 all the way. I only have 2 years until retirement so I’ll be on my own then. And my confidence in .45 ACP has never faltered. I just wish most of them were easier to pack. My G30S ain’t bad, and my XDS .45 is really sweet.
I made a grievous error!!! I forgot to mention my other carry gun...Shield 45. I'm honestly glad I don't have to make a once-for-all-time decision about which one to carry.There is always the G-30S or Shield .45 which is very slim and easy to carry with as much capacity as the venerable 1911! Good luck!
I am thinking about returning to .40 S&W after a one year hiatus. I carried, on and off-duty, GLOCKs G23/G27 combo for 7 years, G22/G27 combo for 18 years prior to that. And a Shield .40 off-duty too.
After fighting unreliability issues with various .40 caliber GLOCKs with WML's for several months, and intensely researching 9mm ballistics for over a year I got the Sheriff to approve personally purchased GLOCK 9mm and .45 ACP for those deputies that wished to either just carry those calibers, or if they wanted to utilize a WML on their handgun. The WML situation got so bad we decided to ban them from the .40 GLOCKs.
Our issue weapon is the G22 for uniform and G23 for plain clothed. When we upgrade we will be issuing G17/G19's, but .40 will still be authorized along with .45 ACP GLOCKs if they are personally purchased. The GLOCK 9mm's and .45s have been flawless with WML's.
I personally decided to switch to a G19/G26 9mm combo for duty. And a G30S. I shoot them well, but I shoot my G23/G27 well too. Admittedly, I do shoot the 9mm's faster, but, then again, I shoot my .40's pretty dang fast too.
Here is my dilemma. I am seriously considering returning to .40 S&W. All the data I have indicates that 9mm is probably better for duty. Better capacity, easier to shoot, easier on guns, supposedly no practical difference in terminal performance and our GLOCK 9mm's run perfectly with WML's.
BUT, I still feel like my old .40's just had better performance. And I know they do, but my data and logic tells me it's not enough to make a practical difference on the street. But I just feel like it is a significant difference.
Ever seen a deer or hog shot with a .40 and a 9mm. It's a significant difference to them, so why not humans ??
Also, I am an avid outdoorsman and I much prefer a .40 in the wilds. I have used the .40 outdoors with very good success on deer, gators, wild dogs, snakes …. . I have not used the 9mm in the outdoors but I've seen videos and the performance was found wanting.
I am tired of switching out guns when I head into the swamps, and honestly, I oftentimes just find myself there with whatever I happen to be carrying.
I thought about just going straight .45 but even my G30S is bigger and heavier than my G27, it's about the size and weight of my G23, but the G23 beats it in capacity (13/15/17 for the .40).
I reckon I just miss the warm fuzzy feeling my .40's gave me. I would still have to keep my G19 in my kit for missions that require WML's. But honestly, I rarely use WML's, except on my HD gun and my hotel gun when I travel. So, talk me into or out of switching back to my .40's !
Yeah, I actually handload a 155 XTP at 1250 fps. Can't use that at work though. Or even off-duty, per our policy.With the right load 40's are great. I like the 155's as they replicate the 158 grn 357 mag from a 4" BBL. The WML has been a known issue with 40 cal Glocks from the beginning. If you want, need, desire a WML go with something other than a 40 cal Glock. Did you try light fast 40's ?
Yeah, I carried my G30S often at work. I was qualified with it, along with my G26 and G19. Since I had decided to switch to 9mm and .45 this past year there were many days I woke up feeling .45ish so I chose the G30S over my usual G26. If I switch back to G23/G27 the G30S probably won't see as much carry time, but still some.There is always the G-30S or Shield .45 which is very slim and easy to carry with as much capacity as the venerable 1911! Good luck!
Yeah, but the 45 is 100% ‘mericanI keep seeing ya'll taut the 45 as more powerful than 40 but it's not, in most common defensive loads the 40 delivers more KE at the muzzle and 25 yards than the 45 does, unless you run the 45 at over 1000 fps which is dang hot in 45 acp 230 grain , the 185 loaded to 1100 fps really hits hard but then the 180 .40 will penetrate more..... the 40 is dang hard to beat
lol, so is the .40 ,I'm not knocking the 45 at all since I own and carry a few but if I knew I was going into battle tomorrow I would want my 229 as my backup, and since I'm kinda weird I want a 308 Tavor as my rifle of choice :image035:Yeah, but the 45 is 100% ‘merican