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I think we might be seeing something similar from the energy industry right now. Reading about the TX blackouts, makes for very interesting reading. Including a statement from one of their electric providers about going green means less available. AND some sort of electric corridor of States running to S.D. You know, getting into pipeline country.

Interesting timing right after biden used his pen to shut the pipeline down. But, I’m sure its just coincidence, lol.
 

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Honest question. Is that even legal. Wouldn't it be the same as say IHOP refusing service to a certain group of people while providing service to others. But then Facebook etal. does it all the time so maybe I'm full of hooey.
Being a private business I don't see how they would be breaking any laws in refusing service to Biden supporters. If it did then my guess is that Disney would be breaking the law by firing an employee because she was a Trump supporter.
 

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Amazing to me that some here are advocating for registration or show papers to purchase ammo. You need to take a hard look in the mirror folks. The end does not justify the means.
 

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Probably more about the optics and making a statement.

Of course I'm sure there will be a Facebook/Twitter/Google back lash of defunding/deplatforming this company due to objectionable (to the Masters of the Universe) ideals.

I quit Facebook/Twitter and can't imagine why any company would risk their business being suddenly shut down by being dependent, or even patronizing, those platforms?

But then I'm a hard headed, grumpy old patriot.
 

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it's unenforceable because all the customer has to do is check, "no" and they're in.

The company is just doing it for show because of the anti-2A stance Biden takes.

Harmless and it generates the company a lot of publicity.
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What is legal and what is right are, at times, are in opposite corners.
Agree with this. I would have a hard time alienating a large percentage of my customers because they voted for a certain person. Would be out of business very quickly.
 

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I just hope you guys have not indoctrinated your children yet, but I'm not hopeful. Crap prices anyway. No, I did not vote for Trump. We will not get the opportunity again either since he will be in lawsuits for the rest of his shameful life. If I had a business, ALL are welcome...R/D/I + LGBTQ + Handicapped + Capitalist + Socialists + Communists + EVERY race. I am serving the public. I am running a business...not a political statement.
 

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I've worked in plenty of places that had a sign up that said "We reserve the right to refuse service to ANYONE."
You can't force me to serve you any more than I can force you to purchase from me. At least in any reasonable world.
And yes, I know that the world that we live in is FAR from reasonable.
 

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I've worked in plenty of places that had a sign up that said "We reserve the right to refuse service to ANYONE."
You can't force me to serve you any more than I can force you to purchase from me. At least in any reasonable world.
And yes, I know that the world that we live in is FAR from reasonable.
and as it should be I was dea; would not sell to police, but I am a product of the drug wars and the corruption I saw
 

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I voted for Biden. Had to. There was more than one issue at stake in the election, and to be honest I believe and believed that surviving was the biggest issue. But I support 2A. I am against any restrictions on so-called assault weapons, and restrictions on mags. Both of which are fundamentally wrong as well as pointless for reducing gun violence when one considers the size and scope of gun violence. I am for gun research, and would like to see technology make for safer guns so that people have more choice in the market place, e.g., a mom/dad can carry a gun that can't be exploited by the kids. I carry 24/7 except when my gun and I sleep.

Many dems are ignorant about guns. They get their education via the news. Some dem politicians use guns as a platform for higher office, ignoring the science and the traditions of this great nation. There are a lot of dems, given the information bubble that they are in, believe a certain way. Many on the right are victims of this same thing. Some dems are evil, some on the right are as well, but the majority of both are just every day people. They pay their taxes and just want to be left alone.

Today, it's all about manipulation of the masses, which has gotten successively easier since the internet, social platforms and news delivered by corporate media and individuals, some of which are idiots.

Fundamentally, I believe that the information bubbles each side lives in are the biggest threat to all of us.

I just wanted to let you know that not everyone on the left is AOC.
 

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and as it should be I was dea; would not sell to police, but I am a product of the drug wars and the corruption I saw
Ah. so a blanket statement that all police are corrupt.
This is whats wrong with society today people judge a whole group by the actions of a few, no different than saying all Democrats, People of Color, or add in what ever group of people, Don't cast judgement or the actions of a few, Every one should be treated with respect until that individual does something to lose your respect. I don't care what color, race, creed, belief you have if you treat me with respect I will treat you with respect.
Stop painting the world with such a broad brush.
 

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I voted for Biden. Had to. There was more than one issue at stake in the election, and to be honest I believe and believed that surviving was the biggest issue. But I support 2A. I am against any restrictions on so-called assault weapons, and restrictions on mags. Both of which are fundamentally wrong as well as pointless for reducing gun violence when one considers the size and scope of gun violence. I am for gun research, and would like to see technology make for safer guns so that people have more choice in the market place, e.g., a mom/dad can carry a gun that can't be exploited by the kids. I carry 24/7 except when my gun and I sleep.

Many dems are ignorant about guns. They get their education via the news. Some dem politicians use guns as a platform for higher office, ignoring the science and the traditions of this great nation. There are a lot of dems, given the information bubble that they are in, believe a certain way. Many on the right are victims of this same thing. Some dems are evil, some on the right are as well, but the majority of both are just every day people. They pay their taxes and just want to be left alone.

Today, it's all about manipulation of the masses, which has gotten successively easier since the internet, social platforms and news delivered by corporate media and individuals, some of which are idiots.

Fundamentally, I believe that the information bubbles each side lives in are the biggest threat to all of us.

I just wanted to let you know that not everyone on the left is AOC.
I have posted recently about true American liberals not being leftists, and the leftists having taken over the democratic party.

That being said, and since you threw it out there, I am curious about your rationale: "There was more than one issue at stake in the election, and to be honest I believe and believed that surviving was the biggest issue."

What do you mean "surviving was the biggest issue?"

Hopefully you will elaborate, because I am truly curious, and hopefully others in the forum that disagree with you will be mature enough to not flame you.
 
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Hopefully you will elaborate, because I am truly curious, and hopefully others in the forum that disagree with you will be mature enough to not flame you.
Be happy to. I will try to keep this succinct. But it's kinda long even in the succinct version.

I will focus on the two big ones for me.

The first pivotal point in my view of Trump came in July 2018 at the press conference after the "Helsinki Summit" with Putin. You may recall that the two leaders spoke after meeting in private at side-by-side podiums. President Trump, who as you know is always pretty energetic when speaking, walked in the room and got behind the podium as if he were a wet dog that was almost drowned. I was absolutely shocked. He spoke mechanically. I may have been raised in the rural mountains of upstate New York, but Trump behaved and spoke as if he had had his ass handed to him. Watch the press conference if you haven't and you will see.

This is the same summit where Trump met with Putin in private and dismissed his American interpreter. And the same one where he said be believed Putin over the American intelligence agencies.

My take on it was that Putin had something on Trump, big time.

But wait, there's more...

The following related item did not come out until much later, but it solidified that my take on the summit was much more on the money than I even guessed. You can find interviews of Trump's x-lawyer Michael Cohen who was asked what made him turn in Trump. Keep in mind that although Cohen is "Persona non grata" now, he was a loyal side-man of Trump for years. And he said that he decided after watching the Helsinki that Putin had something on him... on the President of the United States. This coming from a man that knew the real Trump.

There were other matters with Russia, such as the Trump campaign in 2016 inserting in the GOP platform to loosen restrictions.

I served in the military for 20 years. And what I know is this, we are 15 minutes from total annihilation at any given time. We can not have a President that is in any way beholden to our enemies. It's not that I think Trump would sit by as the missiles are heading our way, but we must insure that our two biggest enemies know that our President is 100% independent, because if they ever think he will hesitate, it weakens our defenses. And lowers the bar for a first strike.

Dialing it down a few notches, a President beholden to a foreign power may make bad decisions during a "less than nuclear conflict".

Bottom line when it comes to national defense, in my heart of hearts Trump is not the person I want to have in the situation room.


Second item. Just a bit of background. I was married to a narcissist for 5 years. After that, I studied the heck out of the subject. If you've lived with a narc, then you know several things about them. First, they do not lie. Not like you or I. Second, they can never admit a mistake, to others or to themselves. Third, they must ALWAYS be the winner, but if they can't be the winner, they will downshift immediately to VICTIM.

So when the pandemic started, and Trump kept saying in so many words it will just go away, he wasn't lying. He believed what he said. It was based on nothing, but a narc doesn't need reality to believe in something. Weeks turned into months, and he convinced a sizable portion of the country to ignore masking, to hold big rallies, etc. Worse, he ostracized those that did follow public health guidelines.

Every action by Trump was out of the textbook 101 Narcissist.

Now Covid is bad. 500,000 people have died in the US. Millions and millions of Americans, etc are suffering. But it is not Ebola. It is not Measles. The later, Measles can spread by hopping a ride on dust particles. Not just spittle.

So what I am saying is as President we are lucky it was Covid and not something that was transferred like Measles. As a Narc, they are use to believing their own lies. That's ok when we are talking about income, etc. But when it comes to public health, a President that does not follow the science will result in American deaths and tragedy.

It is a matter of survival. The next time a pandemic happens, we may not be so "lucky".

As an aside, I know this is a sensitive subject, but in my opinion, all Trump would have had to do to win reelection is get behind the virus science early on. But instead, for those people in the "middle" (independents) who helped him win in 2016, he provided nearly endless "cringe worthy" moments.... it (in my opinion) became apparent that we were on our own when it came to the pandemic. This is just my opinion, but it fits my observations. His base was going to vote for him, democrats against. Only the independents were in play.

So, for me, believing he was compromised with Russia and that he lacked the ability to follow the science when it came to the pandemic there was no contest who I would vote for. For myself, for my family and for all Americans, not Trump. BTW, half my adult life I was Republican.

Thanks for asking, and listening.
 

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Be happy to. I will try to keep this succinct. But it's kinda long even in the succinct version.
Thanks for the reply.

I strongly disagree with your conclusions, for reasons that have been stated by many others in the media and no doubt with which you are familiar and yet have drawn other conclusions.

It's interesting that it's coming out now that we should reach herd immunity by April.

As for survival, I have more concerns about China than a moribund Russia.

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Wow!

And you think Biden can cut it better than Trump???
 
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