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It has been shown (sorry, can't find the citation right now) that once your house is burgled, you are likely to be burgled again... It has also been said of home invasions.
This story seems to be proof of the "rule:" Three strikes, homeowner dead.

It seems logical to me that if your neighborhood is hit, your house might be next, but I have no proof of that... But it is something to consider and keep in mind. Fortify your home... And, if you know anyone in your neighborhood who is at risk, especially due to age or infirmity... help them fortify their homes.

This story seems to uphold my thought that neighborhoods might be targeted... but it could be a case of bad stuff always happens in the bad part of town... Story
 

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The "Pillowcase Burglars" hit 11 homes in one day in my town. My home was burglarized once--the fellow went to prison and then left the state.
 

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I wonder if there are any statistics about homes being invaded or burglarized a second time where the home owner used a firearm and shot the perpetrators? I would bet that a home where the "dirtbag" ended up taking a "dirtnap" would not appear to be a very lucrative target for other scumbags!:image035:
 

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I wonder if there are any statistics about homes being invaded or burglarized a second time where the home owner used a firearm and shot the perpetrators? I would bet that a home where the "dirtbag" ended up taking a "dirtnap" would not appear to be a very lucrative target for other scumbags!:image035:[/QUI

You sir are correct
 

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I believe that sort of bad stuff, can and does happen anywhere anytime nowdays and we all have to be alert to the fact it can!! Be ready.!
 

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My dog hasn't made a late night spectacle since we've mostly grown up or kicked out the neighborhood miscreants. I'm patiently awaiting the next wave.

This neighborhood gets cased on a regular basis but I only have proof when the snow is fresh.
 

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My parent's house was hit 5x and they never really got anything. Once my grandparents came home on them, once the alarm scared them off, once my sister scared them off...
They seemed to stop coming after the last guy who fled on foot and lost his truck to impound. Either word got out that the cops had found our address, or the fact that my sister moved in with a DOG made them think twice. Dunno which, but said sis and pooch have bought their own house now, so we shall see if the bad guys take notice.
 

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My parent's house was hit 5x and they never really got anything. Once my grandparents came home on them, once the alarm scared them off, once my sister scared them off...
They seemed to stop coming after the last guy who fled on foot and lost his truck to impound. Either word got out that the cops had found our address, or the fact that my sister moved in with a DOG made them think twice. Dunno which, but said sis and pooch have bought their own house now, so we shall see if the bad guys take notice.
When we lived in the city we had 2 Dobermans, (not at the same time), the folks in the neighborhood were scared of them and the word spread, "they have a Doberman. They were the sweetest dogs you could ever have but we did not tell the neighbors that..:smile:
 

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We've been experimenting with having a remote PC connection, with Skype open on one of the laptops. It's kinda creepy looking in your room from across the courtyard (in my other house). We laugh and talk about 'what if we see a ghost...woooooOOO'.
 

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I met with the security company today...kicking it up a notch with more technology :image035: I'm slowly becoming a techno-nerd.
I'm going the other way... fortification... Alarms seem to me to only be good for when you're away... or when you're asleep. The dogs are sufficient alarm when I'm there, asleep or awake... A monitored alarm only gets the police there in time to draw chalk outlines... or to see where the robbery took place.

In fact, the executive director of the Security Industry Alarm Coalition said in an interview that response time to an alarm is longer by about 2 minutes because of the time for the alarm to be "registered" off site. Most alarms, you have to disarm AFTER you've gotten in... so there's a pause built into their transmission. In addition, police are reluctant to answer a "third party" alarm (as opposed to a 911 call from a victim, say) because of the numerous false alarms... And, some police departments are charging after the first few alarms for false hits...

So I have gone the route of fortification... and a strong motivator was the video of the home invasion in Milburn, NJ. I'm in the process of analyzing the full (available) tape... (not the one shown in the newscast, but another, longer version. One that still has about 50 seconds removed).

And, even with the removed parts... from start (kicking in the back door) to end (moseying out the front door),the BG was in the house for less than 3 minutes. The assault began within 3 seconds of forced entry. Barely enough time to get an on-body weapon drawn and deployed, let alone getting to a weapon and deploying it if you are not armed in the house at all times. Chances are, even with excellent response times, the police won't be there within the three minutes. And in the Milburn case, with the victim being thrown down the stairs, they are lucky the nanny cam did not record a murder. But of course, in the newscast of the invasion, the news team diligently showed that the home owners were installing a new alarm system.

This is my reasoning for going with fortification... YMMV as it is only my opinion.
 

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I'm going the other way... fortification... Alarms seem to me to only be good for when you're away... or when you're asleep. The dogs are sufficient alarm when I'm there, asleep or awake... A monitored alarm only gets the police there in time to draw chalk outlines... or to see where the robbery took place.

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This is my reasoning for going with fortification... YMMV as it is only my opinion.
Totally agree with you. An alarm is basically a post-mortem - by the time the police arrive, it's already too late. I have fortified my door jambs and also installed security storm doors on each exterior entrance. I've got thick wooden dowels installed in the tracks of my horizontally sliding windows, and auxiliary locks on the vertical sliding windows. These auxiliary locks are spaced so that the windows can be opened about two inches - just far enough to trigger my alarm.

Can you share where to find the full video of the Millburn home invasion? I've been looking for that myself.
 

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When we lived in the city we had 2 Dobermans, (not at the same time), the folks in the neighborhood were scared of them and the word spread, "they have a Doberman. They were the sweetest dogs you could ever have but we did not tell the neighbors that..:smile:
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Here's our baby a couple of years ago, RIP. She was a sweetheart and 80 pounds of lapdog. She was very intimidating when she wanted to be. :lolp: The customers at my DW's retail store loved her to tears.

She was our Early Warning System and was usually enough to keep most folks a wee bit "on edge". She and her "Little Sis" cornered a contractor in a closet once. He deserved it. He wouldn't quit talking. :lolp:

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This girl is over 11 now, and her muzzle is all silver. She's by my side. We have each others backs.

Multiple burglaries make sense. Come back the second time to get all of the new stuff they got to replace the old stolen stuff.
 

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Totally agree with you. An alarm is basically a post-mortem - by the time the police arrive, it's already too late. I have fortified my door jambs and also installed security storm doors on each exterior entrance. I've got thick wooden dowels installed in the tracks of my horizontally sliding windows, and auxiliary locks on the vertical sliding windows. These auxiliary locks are spaced so that the windows can be opened about two inches - just far enough to trigger my alarm.

Can you share where to find the full video of the Millburn home invasion? I've been looking for that myself.

This link has the most complete video without the talking heads There are still ~10 second cuts at various intervals... (probably when perp was off screen/upstairs/etc.) Based on the time in the lower right of the screen, he was in the house 2 minutes 48 seconds.
 

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I just love German Shepards. I used to travel a lot. Got my wife a pup. She stayed with her every moment. She never allowed anyone to enter a room unless she went first the she would take her right position by the side. One thing she did that I have never seen before. I was last to leave in the morning and she would go out on the closed in back porch to her daytime bed. I would give her a milkbone. She would lay it down by her bed and save it all day. When I came home she would pick it up and eat it. She was the smartest dog we ever had. We miss her real bad.
 

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I have motion detector lights front door back door and all four corners of the house. Solar powered lights line the drive way not real bright but enough. Three dogs don't want my dogs to attack (I think my grasp of state law is a little better than theirs) just make noise to tell me some one is there. Last year the vehicles in front of every house on the street were broken into except mine.
 

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In addition to the Alarm system which covers all doors and windows and Dual Tech Motions inside, I re-enforced the doors with these. They fit standard spacing of door lock and dead bolt locks. The screws are 4 inches long and go into the two 2x4's in the door frame. My house is 14 years old and any home built in that time should have door lock spacing that is the same. Lowe's and Home Depot carry these. You will discover that when you remove the existing single brackets how little security really is in your door jambs. Dual Tech Motions use Passive Infared (PIR) and Microwave so that when heat and motion occurs you get an alarm. With single tech (PIR) your heater coming on and off can cause a false alarm, which then leads to False Alarm Charges and required inspections of your system to cure it's issues. Oh, also the dead bolts are locked on both sides, and yes I know it is against code to do this, but it is my house. However you got in is how you will get back out! Also I have 8 cameras around and in the house. The neighborhood has 4 cameras at the only entrance/exit. It gets faces and color of cars and tag numbers and color of cars on the way out.

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I met with the security company today...kicking it up a notch with more technology :image035: I'm slowly becoming a techno-nerd.
That's obvious considering your new Avitar! :hand10:
 

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I'm going the other way... fortification... Alarms seem to me to only be good for when you're away... or when you're asleep. The dogs are sufficient alarm when I'm there, asleep or awake... A monitored alarm only gets the police there in time to draw chalk outlines... or to see where the robbery took place.

In fact, the executive director of the Security Industry Alarm Coalition said in an interview that response time to an alarm is longer by about 2 minutes because of the time for the alarm to be "registered" off site. Most alarms, you have to disarm AFTER you've gotten in... so there's a pause built into their transmission. In addition, police are reluctant to answer a "third party" alarm (as opposed to a 911 call from a victim, say) because of the numerous false alarms... And, some police departments are charging after the first few alarms for false hits...

So I have gone the route of fortification... and a strong motivator was the video of the home invasion in Milburn, NJ. I'm in the process of analyzing the full (available) tape... (not the one shown in the newscast, but another, longer version. One that still has about 50 seconds removed).

And, even with the removed parts... from start (kicking in the back door) to end (moseying out the front door),the BG was in the house for less than 3 minutes. The assault began within 3 seconds of forced entry. Barely enough time to get an on-body weapon drawn and deployed, let alone getting to a weapon and deploying it if you are not armed in the house at all times. Chances are, even with excellent response times, the police won't be there within the three minutes. And in the Milburn case, with the victim being thrown down the stairs, they are lucky the nanny cam did not record a murder. But of course, in the newscast of the invasion, the news team diligently showed that the home owners were installing a new alarm system.

This is my reasoning for going with fortification... YMMV as it is only my opinion.
I understand your reasoning, and I agree, but considering the design of Florida houses (4 sets of huge two-way sliding glass doors) there's really not much I can do outside of prison bars.

So I'm going with the "layers" approach. I've changed out locks and stuff, but I've gone with a monitored security system. It sets off an audible alarm immediately (trust me, I've opened up my back and side door to let the cat in or out too many times). Even if you disengage, the company comes over and validates you're OK with the password. I've got contacts on all doors and windows, motions covering the open floor plan, and glass break sensor. I'm installing motion activated flood lights in front and back, and now interior and exterior cameras hooked to a DVR. High quality, high resolution, and lowlight. My wife can turn to an input on the 60 inch TV and see a split screen of all cameras at once at anytime, from any computer anywhere, or our phones. You can pan and zoom remotely. I have an app for my security system on my phone and can check, activate, deactivate, and check the history from anywhere. I can also talk into my phone and have it audible inside or outside my home from anywhere.

It's not a concrete bunker 30 feet below the surface, but it does provide various layers of detection and deterrence. As least I can see what is going on in or around my house without having to go outside or from anywhere else when I'm not home...and can make announcements. I could also remotely sound the alarm if they somehow got around it. It's better than it was.
 
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