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Virginia will certainly get an F from the Brady Bunch next year if this goes
through! Basically, anyone (resident or non resident) can carry concealed
with out a permit as long as they notify any LEO that they are carrying. VA
would still issue resident and non resident permits to allow carry in other

A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation,
(i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a
missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material,
and when approached by a law-enforcement officer, fails to inform the
law-enforcement officer as soon as practicable of the possession, or fails
to secure the weapon at the law-enforcement officer's direction or allow the
law-enforcement officer to secure the weapon for the duration of the
contact; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife,
machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii)
any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in
such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun
chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of
whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which
is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing
star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in
this subsection, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second
violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to
any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county,
city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or
subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the
purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common
observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to
disguise the weapon's true nature.


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I believe Americans should be able to carry concealed without all the current gyrations we go through. Good luck to the people of VA. Many of us are content to carry in the car only but to do so we must be investigated, attend a school get permits etc. Its very expensive to get a permit.

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This bill is a mixed bag..

This is not a repeal of Virginia's CHP system, it is an addition to it. This is adding the requirement that you notify any LEO that you are carrying on contact with that LEO. We do not have to do this now, so it is another hoop a CHP holder must jump through in Virginia.

So you will still need a permit in Virginia. They clarified the photo id requirement further down in the same section.

Another change was loosening the requirements for reciprocity. So more states will recognize Virginia permits and vice versa. For example Indiana recognizes Virginia but not vice versa. This is because the current law prohibits concealed carry by anyone under 21 years of age. The revision in this bill removes the minimum age requirement for reciprocity. It also removes a big sticking point for reciprocity, which is the 24/7 permit verification clause.

So a mixed bag by adding the notification requirement, but removing most of the obstacles to reciprocity.

Here is a link to the bill.

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Mea Culpa

According to the bill's patron Alaska style carry is what he is after. So Bumper is correct. No permit required, but Virginia will continue to issue permits for the sake of reciprocity. This bill faces an uphill battle from what a lobbyist I talked to said.

There are a bunch of bills this year, and I'm still trying to make sense out of some of them. Some are just clearing up stuff in the code, which is good. Some are just flat out obsfucatory.
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