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Just got this in my email. My God, what next, I mean really, WTH?


Tuesday, September 8, 2009

Just when you thought the news about the Obama administration couldn't get any worse, gun owners find themselves needing to rally the troops once again.

This time it's the proposed "Regulatory Czar" who will be coming to a vote this week in the U.S. Senate.

His name is Cass Sunstein, and he holds some of the kookiest views you will ever hear.

For starters, Sunstein believes in regulating hunting out of existence. He told a Harvard audience in 2007 that "we ought to ban hunting." And in The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer (2002), he said:
I think we should go further ... the law should impose further regulation on hunting, scientific experiments, entertainment, and (above all) farming to ensure against unnecessary animal suffering. It is easy to imagine a set of initiatives that would do a great deal here, and indeed European nations have moved in just this direction. There are many possibilities. (Italics are his emphasis.)
If that's all Sunstein believed, he would be dangerous and extreme, but not necessarily kooky. Unfortunately, when you look at WHY he wants to restrict hunting, this is where he goes beyond extreme.

In Sunstein's world, animals should have just as many rights as people ... and they should be able to sue humans in court!

"We could even grant animals a right to bring suit without insisting that animals are persons, or that they are not property," Sunstein said on page 11 of Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions (2004).

Well, that's a relief ... he is at least willing to concede that animals are not persons! But he would still have animals suing humans, apparently, with more enlightened humans representing the cuddly critters.

Imagine returning from a successful hunting trip ... only to find out that you've been subpoenaed for killing your prize. Who knows, maybe Sunstein would have the family of the dead animal serving as witnesses in court!

By the way, if you're wondering what he thinks about the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, you won't be surprised to know that Sunstein is a huge supporter of gun control.

In Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right-Wing Courts are Wrong for America (2005), Sunstein says:
Almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine.... [O]n the Constitution's text, fundamentalists [that is, gun rights supporters] should not be so confident in their enthusiasm for invalidating gun control legislation.
Hmm, what part of "shall not be infringed" does Sunstein not understand?

Imagine the power that Sunstein could have as the Regulatory Czar -- the nickname for the person heading the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) in the White House.

As the Regulatory Czar, he could bring about changes in the regulations that affect hunting, gun control and farming. In short, he could make your life hell.

Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) objected to his nomination several weeks ago, preventing him from being unanimously confirmed.

That means that the Senate will now need to garner 60 votes to confirm this radical, kooky choice to the OIRA.

No doubt, many of the people our President wants to associate with are radical kooks. First, there was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright ... then there was the self-avowed communist (Van Jones) who was nominated for the Green Jobs Czar ... now, there's an extreme animal rights activist who wants to take away our guns and get Bambi to sue us in court.

It's time to take a STRONG STAND against this radical administration.

ACTION: Please contact your Senators right away and urge them to vote AGAINST the Cass Sunstein nomination. You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your legislators the pre-written e-mail message below.



----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

I urge you to vote AGAINST Cass Sunstein as the head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, as I am very concerned about the impact this "Regulatory Czar" would have upon firearms and hunting.

Sunstein told a Harvard audience in 2007 that "we ought to ban hunting." If that were all Sunstein believed, he would be dangerous and extreme, but not necessarily kooky. Unfortunately, in Sunstein's world, animals should have just as many rights as people ... and they should be able to sue humans in court!

Moreover, he is a firm supporter of gun control. In Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right-Wing Courts are Wrong for America (2005), Sunstein says that, "Almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine."

I wouldn't be surprised if Sunstein is part of the small minority -- 11% of Americans, according to a Zogby/O'Leary poll in August -- who opposes licensed concealed carry.

I hope you will understand that Cass Sunstein's views are WAY OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM of American thought and that you should vote NO on this radical, kooky nomination.
 

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Not surprised that "O" picked another radical kook.

I'm writing my congressmen today.
 

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This guy's is a lot more dangerous than most folks seem to realize. He is a dyed in the wool socialist and die-hard at that.

Read it in his own words:
A list of his own Op-Eds listed on his profile page at the University of Chicago
Op-Eds

And his wonderfully telling book:
The second bill of rights: FDR's unfinished revolution and why we need it by Cass R Sunstein
You can find an overview/preview of the book on google books:
The Second Bill of Rights: FDR's ... - Google Books

He also authored another book(The Cost of Rights) with another fellow by the name of Stephen Holmes. In it, they both basically assert that rights are not absolute and morally derived by virtue of man and his free will, but rather that rights are "granted" by the state or power above them. They also assert that any and all items or property of value are only in existence due to the protection of the government and therefore, the government is entitled to that property or value.

This is exactly the kind of nut we don't need running the ship.
 

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Make no mistake, the guy is a nut and I oppose his nomination. But he is an interesting nut. Believe it or not, he's a judicial minimalist. He even supported several of Bush's judicial nominees. But wow, yeah, he's really freaking out there on a lot of subjects. Forget the hunting stuff, all anyone has to do to sink his nomination is read his opinion about celebrating Tax Day. I think he's probably brilliant and completely bonkers, which makes him really scary.

Forgot one other thing. The hilarious thing about Obama is that in terms of his legislative actions, he has completely betrayed his liberal supporters. Yet when it comes to seemingly insignificant department heads that will nonetheless bring him disproportionately bad PR, his administration appoints the Fruitiest of the Loops, the most Cuckoo of the Cocoa Puffs. Bizarre.
 

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Obama is what he is. He won't have to show his true colors in full glory if he appoints people that will work is real agenda on his behalf. He won't appoint anyone who hasn't renounced the USA in some fashion.
 

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There must be an asylum near the White House where Osama finds and picks all his cabinet members from.
 

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I agree that animals should have the same rights as humans.

I'm going to buy my dog a 1911 today.:smile:
 

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I agree that animals should have the same rights as humans.

I'm going to buy my dog a 1911 today.:smile:
That's funny....what a wack job this guy is, I hope people wake up and smell the poo being shoveled by the government in it's current form.
 

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This guy just had a talk with Pam Anderson ( JK )
 

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this guy might be the weirdest nutjob ive seen. A free-market, anti free-speech knee jerk liberal.

his views on fairness doctirine, and his crusade to create a waiting period for free-speech blogs and his idea to allow people to sue on behalf of animals makes him more then a wild card.... Anti-guns, anti hunting, anti livestock, and his other kooky views makes me cringe.
 

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Democrats push Cass Sunstein nomination - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com
In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate.
Don't forget to refer to this left wing nut-job as a professor of Law at the U of Chicago for 27 years :rofl:

if you want an inside look at what happens when you mix crazy and stupid read the reviews on his book. :rant:

Amazon.com: The Second Bill of Rights: FDR'S Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More than Ever (9780465083329): Cass R. Sunstein: Books

On pages 205-206, Sunstein addresses ...the morality of "taking from the rich to give to the poor" by arguing that if one is to say that taking from the 'haves' to give to the 'have-nots' violates the rights of the 'haves', one would have to agree that "people have a right to their current holdings, and any dimunition amounts to a rights violation". Sunstein says that this position is implausible, because it is only the existence of laws and public institutions that make those holdings possible. He says "without public support, wealthy people could not possibly have what they own.... those who denounce government largesse as a violation of rights disregard the extent to which their own rights are a product of government".
Rights are a product of government. Who knew? :twak:
 

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Democrats push Cass Sunstein nomination - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com


Don't forget to refer to this left wing nut-job as a professor of Law at the U of Chicago for 27 years :rofl:

if you want an inside look at what happens when you mix crazy and stupid read the reviews on his book. :rant:

Amazon.com: The Second Bill of Rights: FDR'S Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More than Ever (9780465083329): Cass R. Sunstein: Books



Rights are a product of government. Who knew? :twak:

I thought government was a product of the people? Boy, what have I been missing?!
 

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There's a good article here: The Gaggle : Glenn Beck's New Target: Cass Sunstein

Some quotes:

"Sunstein has since written to Cornyn and Chambliss to affirm his belief that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms for the purposes of hunting and self-defense. He's also stated that he wouldn't use his position to advance an animal-rights agenda."

"Sunstein retains significant support from conservative intellectuals, and his statements aren't nearly as damaging as those of Van Jones."

"Initially, conservatives were broadly supportive of Sunstein's nomination, appreciating the libertarian bent of some of his writings. The Wall Street Journal praised his nomination, citing his reservations about financial regulation and his advocacy of competition as necessary viewpoints to be aired within the Obama administration. The Journal called him a "savvy choice." His nomination was applauded by conservative bloggers like Eugene Volokh."
 

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Senate approved him today. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090910/pl_bloomberg/a9b2vbinyws0_1 Now we get to find out if the guy behind the curtain (NOOOOO, don't look behind the curtain!) manipulating the REGULATIONS that make the LAWS work can regulate hunting out of existence, can regulate ammo out of supply, can regulate public lands to the point that steak is tooooo expensive to eat, can send new regulations over to BATF to cut down the number of gun shows and shops, can regulate..........everything and everybody...........

I'm not saying he can't do it NOR am I saying that he can do it. Just now we will see. Scarey, the guy behind the curtain pulling the levers of regulation.....

I read "Nudge"...this guy definitely knows how to push people into making "correct" decisions.
 

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Folks, look up this agency's Wiki and its own web page. It is largely advisory, this guy is not going to be able to impose his will upon the country. The president sets a policy and they are in charge of seeing that is followed. This is from the government web page:

* The implementation of government-wide policies and standards with respect to Federal regulations and guidance documents;
* The quality, utility, and analytic rigor of information used to support public policy;
* Dissemination of and access to government information;
* Privacy and confidentiality;
* Electronic records; and
* Federal statistics.

Is he goofy? Yes. However, he's also unquestionably qualified while still being a buddy of Obama's, so there's no doubt some cronyism too. Also, don't scream socialist, because this guy's politics are far more complex and in many respects, far from socialism. As was already mentioned, the Wall Street Journal endorsed him, and they aren't known to be big fans of Marxists.

Stay vigilant, as always, but Cass Sunstein isn't taking our guns.
 

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This appointment scares me a lil' bit because of the nature of the beast.

Obama's friends are Clinton's friends and who knows what kind of whacko will pick Obama's friends next?

Once you have a job in government you always have a job available etc...
 

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Folks, look up this agency's Wiki and its own web page. It is largely advisory, this guy is not going to be able to impose his will upon the country. The president sets a policy and they are in charge of seeing that is followed. This is from the government web page:

* The implementation of government-wide policies and standards with respect to Federal regulations and guidance documents;
* The quality, utility, and analytic rigor of information used to support public policy;
* Dissemination of and access to government information;
* Privacy and confidentiality;
* Electronic records; and
* Federal statistics.

Is he goofy? Yes. However, he's also unquestionably qualified while still being a buddy of Obama's, so there's no doubt some cronyism too. Also, don't scream socialist, because this guy's politics are far more complex and in many respects, far from socialism. As was already mentioned, the Wall Street Journal endorsed him, and they aren't known to be big fans of Marxists.

Stay vigilant, as always, but Cass Sunstein isn't taking our guns.
And this is different than His WHACKED viewpoints how? Hmm, let's see. We'll take a bunch of steaks and put them in a room full of hungry jackals and then we have the lead jackal say, yes, we are going to eat them and then we have the other jackals enforcing that decision?
Oh, did you know that you are the steak?

Frog in water my friend and the temperature just keeps rising. The sublimity of this administration is what is the scary part. Little nips here, little nips there, pretty soon you have eaten an elephant and he didn't even know it

The cost of freedom: CONSTANT vigilance!!!!!

This is just another ant in the cupboard. Get rid of it or you'll have the whole colony there! And no, this isn't a personal threat, in case anyone is watching, it is merely to demonstrate a point. I don't advocate violence.

And no offense, but it's the Wall Street boys that have been given BILLIONS, in case that has become occluded.
 

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Not suggesting this necessarily

But the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Something like that...
 
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