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This guy is wearing a heavy coat, and or back pack that isn't your regular collage student.

for argument sake, he doesn’t say BOMB, but begins shouting in a language that sounds like Arabic, and begins to reach for the back pack or inside his jacket.

I think this decision would be like in a lot of other situations, to shoot or not to shoot, a second to decide, and a lifetime to live with the decision, or possible not.

So, you have to decide what to do, it does not seem their is time for you to retreat, if it is real, you have to act now.

I know the odds are probably astronomical, but what else would you take into consideration. In the whole second or maybe two you have to decide.
 

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Put your head between your leggs etc, etc. There isn't enough here to justify shooting him. (What is Arabic for "Help me, I'm having a heart attack! My nitroglycerin pills are in my backpack!"?)
 

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I think my role in carrying a ccw Is to protect my life and that of my family. I am not a trained expert on terrorism. I have had some minimal terrorism training though. I still would not feel comfortable shooting anybody without having some facts that I could articulate that My life was in danger. I live in a very metropolitan area. It is not unusual to see someone with the description you gave walking around. In the San francisco area there is no such thing as the" regular college student". I would feel pretty dumb if I shot someone who was screaming at someone on a cell phone in a foreign language ,using bluetooth technology (wireless), while he was reaching in his backpack for a notebook and pen. So I guess my amswer would be heighten my awareness (keep my hand near my gun and watch his hands and see what he reaches for. and take it from there.
 

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Not enough yet to justify a shooting in this country (Israel maybe, but not here). Time to quickly back towards an exit without taking my eyes off him.

I hadn't thought of the wireless headset stuff. Good idea.
 

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So I guess my amswer would be heighten my awareness (keep my hand near my gun and watch his hands and see what he reaches for. and take it from there.
Don't think there is much that you can do in this situation. But got to say. if he's reaching for a detonation switch, and you are watching him, in all probability you are both dead no matter what you think you're going to try.
 

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Mike - without trying to offer a cop-out - I cannot offer any concrete thoughts of any use.

The situation if as described could well be several things tho obviously very suspicious. If a bomb for real then probably anyone there that close is gonna be SOL and soon DRT - because probably nothing will prevent an inevitable result.

As so often, imagining a scenario - so many variables and in the end if t'were me there, I'd not know what to do until I did (or didn't) do it. :wink:
 

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I would get closer to the ground but my buttons are in the way!:gah:
 

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Mike - without trying to offer a cop-out - I cannot offer any concrete thoughts of any use.

The situation if as described could well be several things tho obviously very suspicious. If a bomb for real then probably anyone there that close is gonna be SOL and soon DRT - because probably nothing will prevent an inevitable result.

As so often, imagining a scenario - so many variables and in the end if t'were me there, I'd not know what to do until I did (or didn't) do it. :wink:
In bombings (much like pedestrian versus train incidents), DRT does not really apply.

We used to use DRTTTT, for Dead Right There... and There... and There... and There.

Matt
 

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Luckily, I speak passable Arabic (neener, neener, neener!! :image035: )

So I'd be paying REAL close attention to what the guy was saying.

:theyareontome:

Seriously, there are certain phrases and sequences that you would want to listen for. It's not foolproof nor by any means perfect - but it's a pretty good indicator.
 

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Luckily, I speak passable Arabic (neener, neener, neener!! :image035: )

So I'd be paying REAL close attention to what the guy was saying.

:theyareontome:

Seriously, there are certain phrases and sequences that you would want to listen for. It's not foolproof nor by any means perfect - but it's a pretty good indicator.

Cool,:hand10:

How would you pronounce that,

(knee kner) maybe,

Is that "Bomb" :gah: or something like that?

Any others you could give us would be appreciated.

With all this immigration stuff going on, I’ve been thinking about taking up Spanish. I would like to know when what is being said is coordinating an attack on my or someone near bye. Or they are just laughing at my out of style cloths.
 

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I have often wondered what the impact on jihad would be if American LE and Mil forces began using (and making it public) bullets lubed with a pork grease derivative. Maybe market it under the name "Kiss of Iblis"?:twak: :biggrin2:
 

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I remember seeing an ad for an allegedly pork-based firearms lubricant but I can't seem to find it. And yes, it was designed for warfare against these idiots.
 

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Pickpocket said:
Luckily, I speak passable Arabic (neener, neener, neener!! :image035: )

So I'd be paying REAL close attention to what the guy was saying.

:theyareontome:

Seriously, there are certain phrases and sequences that you would want to listen for. It's not foolproof nor by any means perfect - but it's a pretty good indicator.
If he is shouting Allah Ackbar or something along the way of that, it is not a good sign.
 

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because he would be in seattle or close to it i would be more concerned about an ak 47 under that large coat or an uzi in the back pack. We've had a lot of shootings up here recently and i'm always on guard for the next one.
 

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If he is shouting Allah Ackbar or something along the way of that, it is not a good sign.
"Allah-u-Akbar!" (God is Great) isn't something you want to hear someone screaming at the top of their lungs for no apparent reason. If you do, you should probably look for a place to hide the wife and kids kinda quick-like.

However - it's not as though that phrase is a foolproof indicator. It's inscribed upon both the Iraqi and Iranian national flags, and it's often used as an expression of happiness or excitement.
It's spoken aloud during each stage of their prayers, and I've seen relatively benign crowds chant it back to a speaker on cue.

Like I said, it's not perfect - but you don't want to hear it screamed out for no apparent reason. That usually meant our day was about to get a bit more exciting.
 
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