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Anyone else afraid to contact Progressive Government Reps ?

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I know as Americans under the Constitution we have the right to express grievances towards the Government but I have never been more afraid of my government before in my life.They collect lists and destroy people.They do not think with reason or care about the Constitution which they swore to uphold.We are losing our rights at such a rapid pace and it seems at times with little or no voice of opposition.

I write to those Conservative representatives which appear to want to uphold the Constitution but I am unsure how effective it is.

I have such strong feelings about what is going on and even here in this forum i feel hesitant, because you just don't know if you say something that is deemed by someone as wrong, you may get a 5am wake up call by some government swat team.

Anyhow just curious how others are feeling out there. Hoping to hear from some Patriots with an encouraging word...
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Write your reps. You dont have to rant at them. They arent going to read it anyway likely but have bean counters on staff to check and see how many of their voters are going which way on an issue. Urge to vote for or against said whatever it is and leave it at that.

If your reps are lib antis they know they are going to get written by thousands opposing what they are pushing anyway they just dont care. As long as you dont threaten one or come off as some threat to them personally youll be just someone else that is urging a vote one way or the other.

Just stay respectful voice what you feel they should support or oppose and I doubt youll have a drone targeting your house :smile:

Then again if you hear something overhead:gah:
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If one has a issue/grievance that concerns the government, proposed bills, the Constitution they have a right under the 1st amendment to address them to the government.

I would not worry myself that I would be "tagged" as long as you are cordial, do not threaten, use vulgar language when contacting them.

As for representatives that do not possibly seem to agree with your views it is still a good idea to contact them anyway so that they see an opposing view from their constituents. If people do not contact them they get the idea they are right since they receive nothing from the "other" side.

Granted many people simply will not contact an "unfriendly" representative. Personally I believe that is the wrong attitude. Example: Even if I lived in California I would still contact Senator Feinstein and Boxer to urge them to vote no on the upcoming so called "gun control" bills/amendments...........
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I'm not one bit afraid to contact them and let them know where I stand. Of course, I'm one of those dreaded progressives, so maybe they'll let me ride along in the black helicopters!:danceban:

In all seriousness, there are millions of pro gun liberals like me in the US. There's a lot of tinfoil-hat nonsense on both sides of the aisle, and I really wish it would stop. The gun control thing reminds me a bit of the situation in the Colonies before the revolution. The founders reckoned that the population was divided roughly into thirds: 1/3 wanted revolution, 1/3 were loyal to the Crown and the other 1/3 just wanted to live their lives, taking a "wait and see" attitude towards the troubles. Likewise there are a few "true believers" like DiFi but there are a lot more that, while not gun friendly, are just watching to see which way the wind blows.

That's where the letters and calls come in. The true believers are often in extremely safe gerrymandered districts without much chance of losing their seat. This applies to both parties. The guys and gals that carry water for the cause often don't care what the people think because they don't have to. But most of them care more about getting re-elected than in doing what's right. Again, this applies to both parties. Just like a cop's main job is to get home at the end of the day, a career politician wants to ride the gravy train as long as they can.

Be courteous, be respectful, even when you disagree. But be persistent. Let them know you will vote on the issue and then follow through.
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I contact Sherrod Brown all the time. I know it will do no good, but I do it anyway. It is my right and I exercise it. If he decides to kill me over that, God will take care of that.
I've been writing all of them, pro and anti. If they don't have anything better to do than come after a ******* sitting in his boxer shorts in FL sending "I'm not going to vote for you because you're a liberal gun grabber, and I'm telling all my buddies" e-mails, then this country is too far gone to save. Until they repeal the 1st Amendment, the stupid people doing stupid things in our govt are going to keep getting correspondence from me. Let the cards fall where they may.
Either too many politicians have that elitist air about them, or they are really socialists advancing an agenda. I have seen reports of people at town hall meetings with their reps getting either thrown out of the meeting, or arrested ... because that rep did not want to deal with the complaints in front of them. The Libs claim they want Government that is not bought and sold on Washington D.C.'s "K" Street. They claim they have had the most transparent Government. Of course only the SHEEPLE believe that.
I write to them and get the form letter in return. Then they ignore my position and vote their own agenda...no problem.
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I have never been afraid to contact any of my "Representatives" however, the Liberal, gun-hating, jumpin-on-the-big-O-bandwagon-for-the-children ones simply ignore my plea for sanity when it comes to firearms legislation and second ammendment rights.

They are convinced of their stance and no plea, or threat of getting voted out will sway them. It is an exercise in futility to challenge them or change their minds. Apparently it is a mental disorder that has no cure.

Out of four WV Legislators, I contacted two of them. Sen. Rockefeller (D-WV) is not seeking a re-election and he is usless anyhow, he will vote for gun restriction and that's that.

Sen. Manchin (D-WV) lied to the voters saying he would not follow any of the policies of our President, but he has made an about face. He is firmly entrenched in gun restriction and will not budge.

Representative Rahall (D-WV) is committed to vote against or stop any new legislation for gun control. He says looking into the mental health issue will be better than gun restriction. He told me so in a reply letter.

Rep. Shelly Capito (R-WV) has been and has publicly proclaimed she is against any and all gun control legislation. I did not have to contact her.

At least two out of four is good.
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I know as Americans under the Constitution we have the right to express grievances towards the Government but I have never been more afraid of my government before in my life.They collect lists and destroy people.They do not think with reason or care about the Constitution which they swore to uphold.We are losing our rights at such a rapid pace and it seems at times with little or no voice of opposition.

I write to those Conservative representatives which appear to want to uphold the Constitution but I am unsure how effective it is.

I have such strong feelings about what is going on and even here in this forum i feel hesitant, because you just don't know if you say something that is deemed by someone as wrong, you may get a 5am wake up call by some government swat team.

Anyhow just curious how others are feeling out there. Hoping to hear from some Patriots with an encouraging word...
We're already on a list.

you can thank the Patriot Act for that.
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It doesn't bother me at all because as other's have said, the Rep. doesn't read it anyway.
I'm sure the staff scans the letter to see if it's in the "pro" or "con" category and makes little hash marks on a paper to keep track. Then the pre-written, standard letter gets mailed out, having almost nothing to do with what you actually wrote about.

The only letters that get any attention are the ones that have some sort of threat in them. Those go to the FBI where the FBI agents read them, laugh and throw them in the circular file. (I made that part up :smile:)
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If you're concerned about something you might include in the letter, post the wording here for people to comment on. There are some very smart eloquent posters here.
I know as Americans under the Constitution we have the right to express grievances towards the Government but I have never been more afraid of my government before in my life.They collect lists and destroy people.They do not think with reason or care about the Constitution which they swore to uphold.We are losing our rights at such a rapid pace and it seems at times with little or no voice of opposition.
Well, a couple hundred million people vehemently and assertively expressing their opinions in every way, shape and form, cannot be ignored. The only way it can be ignored is to do exactly that: have no voice of opposition. We, as a People, have tried that the past ~40yrs or so on firearms, and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. We've largely become passive workers in a worker-bee facility called the U.S.A., but we've forgotten our roots, failed to get (and remain) heavily involved in our own governance, failed to do much else in our communities (with respect to governance, admin, laws) other than to become apathetic in the extreme.

IMO, by far the best thing every person can do is to get specifically, invasively, heavily involved to the degree we each can do so. Starting with contacting our elected folk in our own towns, counties, states and DC. Becoming involved with a few issues we hold dear (ie, saving the library, or creating alternatives for kids after school, or getting involved in tutoring/mentoring, or helping in our local governments. YES, our voices get heard. But only if we make them heard. 300M people refusing to go quietly into the night cannot be ignored.

That said, yes I believe many I've hired to assist in our own governance are anti-American traitors guilty of treason every day, and I believe they've gamed the system to cover their tracks, support their nefarious and spiteful activities, and we're allowing our courts to do nothing about it. Yes, I believe many who get hired into such roles actively seek to harm the people who've hired them, for their own gains in terms of power, control. Tough toenails. We're a long, long way from being a bottom-of-the-heap, third-world autocracy without any voice, in which we're disappeared at the drop of a hat. And so long as we're far from that, we've got every chance of rooting out the liberty-haters and traitors, and exposing them for who they are and what they're doing.
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I will write to our's in a heartbeat,and have.Thankfully,since no one is trying to ban anything in S.C.,and i have seen,how they voted on a couple of bills i' haven't wrote them lately.
I think we should write thousands of letters to the media. They're the ones controlling things right now. Maybe they need to be protested against.
Being afraid of our government is exactly why we're in this situation.

Write to everyone you can think of, not just those who agree with your position. That's preaching to the choir. More than likely any anti you write to will just send a form letter back and never read your comment, but if they get enough people voicing their support for 2A rights maybe something will click in their head.

By being a gun owner you're probably on a "list". By posting here, you're probably on a "list". If you let that affect your life and dissuade you from your right, and indeed duty, to participate in our grand experiment in self-governance then you've already given up and our cause is weakened.

Stand up for yourself and for your fellow American while we still peaceably can.
My wife is a History and Civics teacher. She's been teaching for 35 years.

Every year, her classes write various letters to out elected Representatives and even the Governor. The students get a kick out of it as they feel that they are really participating.


Here's the thing that stands out though...


When a class gets anwers to the questions, they are always typed up and the look very official,complete with state emblems, "Honorable" so and so in the titles, and the whole bit. The kids love it.

One might notice though...that the responses are pretty much the same generic answer. What is glaringly obvious, is that the signatures are all different...even though they are "signed" by the same person.



They dont even care enough to train their pages to at least attempt to make a forged signature look even close. We gathered some of the letters up and noticed at least a dozen clearly different signatures for the same person.



Still think you have a voice in government? Continue on in your little myth if you beleive so. If you've ever wondered why it seems like no matter how loud you scream or yell and your elected officials ignore you...there is one answer.
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Still think you have a voice in government?
I doubt anyone in Local, State or Federal government actually reads anything I send to them, but that won't stop me sending things to them.

However, someone will read it, and if they get enough support for 2A rights then maybe it will start the wheels turning in their mind and they'll research the issue. Maybe that will lead to an awakening of common sense in their mind. Maybe we'll gain an ally.

Maybe not, but again, it won't stop my continual voicing of my concerns to those elected to represent me.

As with the 2A, a right not exercised is a right lost.
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They dont even care enough to train their pages to at least attempt to make a forged signature look even close. We gathered some of the letters up and noticed at least a dozen clearly different signatures for the same person.



Still think you have a voice in government? Continue on in your little myth if you beleive so. If you've ever wondered why it seems like no matter how loud you scream or yell and your elected officials ignore you...there is one answer.
I just got a letter from Lindsey Graham (SC RINO that vetted and approved Sotomayor), telling me that there's nothing to worry about, with his signature on both the letter, as well on the envelope, not even remotely resembling each other.

I understand that he can't hand-sign everything. Neither can I. I have a stamp with my signature, as well as .jpg that I include when sending a .pdf. However, even lowly me is professional enough to make sure it is an accurate semblance of my signature.

Pure incompetence. I can't wait to vote this turkey out.
Have no fear! Your letter is just so much compost anyway...

You might as well type No more gun control. And sign it... Or rather...

Dear Honorable Moneygrubber:
(and the minion who reads this, and tallies the numbers)

I am a constituent in your district, as you can see by my return address.
Put me down as against any further gun control, please, and send me the appropriate form letter.


Sincerely,

Oakheaded constituent that would like to believe you give a rip what the people want.​

If you WANT the drones over head.... You needn't be threatening... Just send a hand written note, with lots of exclamation points!!!! And write heavily on the paper! Then sign it with cut out letters from magazines and newspapers. Make certain your return address is very neat and legible.

DO NOT put any talcum powder or starch into the envelope.... Just don't do that...
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