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My EDC firearm is a Glock-22.

Certain "experts" (who shall remain nameless) :rolleyes: said "we/I recommend alternating cartridges in your magazine, such as:

Hydrashok, Golden Saber, Hydrashok, Golden Saber, and so on with the last three being FMJ-RN

The "experts" reasoning is that most fire fights happen at very close range and the first shot you want to move the BG BACK and the next round you want penetration......move 'em back, penetration, move 'em back, penetration.

anyone else do this or have any comment? or is this a waste of time?
 

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I want to stop the attack the fastest way possible. That means maximum penetration and tissue damage, blood loss, and CNS trauma. With that being said, I carry 147g Hydrashocks. They have great penetration and expand to about an inch in diameter. I see no need to "move em back." A pistol round isn't going to force someone backwards...just not possible.
 

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One once said that a human can be the easiest or hardest "animal" to take down! I would assume that means that if the BG is determined he will most likely keep coming till he can physically no longer keep going. Or he can be submissive and stop immediately to avoid further physical damage.

Ammo choice can make a difference but I believe ultimately the key to "knock-down" power lies in the determination of the BG.

But I'm no expert... that's just my opinion
 

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One once said that a human can be the easiest or hardest "animal" to take down! I would assume that means that if the BG is determined he will most likely keep coming till he can physically no longer keep going. Or he can be submissive and stop immediately to avoid further physical damage.

Ammo choice can make a difference but I believe ultimately the key to "knock-down" power lies in the determination of the BG.

But I'm no expert... that's just my opinion

excellent observation :bier:
 

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My mags stay loaded without any alternation...same stuff...every day.:yup:
I see no need to stagger load types.:nono:
 

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I don't alternate round types in my mags, either.... I think it's best that the so called, "expert remain nameless"...he doesn't sound like much of an expert to me...
 

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I mix FMJ and JHP in .380 only, due to its "iffy" penetration and expansion. Larger than .380 are all JHP. Wouldn't carry smaller than .380.

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My son is part of a navy EOD team and he suggested my Gold Dot-Gold Dot-Ball loads. Rational?--if BG ducks behind cover, the Ball give more penetration. But, to each his own (magazine loads, that is).
 

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My son is part of a navy EOD team and he suggested my Gold Dot-Gold Dot-Ball loads. Rational?--if BG ducks behind cover, the Ball give more penetration. But, to each his own (magazine loads, that is).
A soldier is a lot less likely to have to worry about over penetration (nor does he have a choice in ammo type as far as hollow points are concerned). Also, as unlikely as any of us are to discharge our firearms in anger, we are even less likely to do so in a firefight that requires consideration of shooting someone behind cover. For that matter, shooting someone behind cover opens up all kinds of potential issues.
 

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In a word of one syllable - NO!
 

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My EDC firearm is a Glock-22.

Certain "experts" (who shall remain nameless) :rolleyes: said "we/I recommend alternating cartridges in your magazine, such as:

Hydrashok, Golden Saber, Hydrashok, Golden Saber, and so on with the last three being FMJ-RN

The "experts" reasoning is that most fire fights happen at very close range and the first shot you want to move the BG BACK and the next round you want penetration......move 'em back, penetration, move 'em back, penetration.

anyone else do this or have any comment? or is this a waste of time?
No bullet is going to "move a bad guy back". Look at the thread where shooting bowling pins is discussed, and see how far a .45 moves a 3.5lb pin...how far do you thnk that'll move a 150 pound--or greater--person?

And a well designed, modern JHP should penetrate deeply enough to do damage to vitals.

Your "expert" is full of it, big time.
 

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No bullet is going to "move a bad guy back". Look at the thread where shooting bowling pins is discussed, and see how far a .45 moves a 3.5lb pin...how far do you thnk that'll move a 150 pound--or greater--person?

And a well designed, modern JHP should penetrate deeply enough to do damage to vitals.

Your "expert" is full of it, big time.
well? thats kind of why I asked :bier::blink::yup::image035:
 
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