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Howdy,

I know other states allow open carry as well but didn't look it up so will call this "Arizona Carry"

What I mean by this is concealed carry with a "who cares if I print" attitude.

Not so much attitude as result.

My interest in this is I really want to carry my Sig P229 but it prints pretty heavy with even wearing a large shirt. If I was trying to be ultra conceal this would not be the option.

BUT it's the sidearm I am most comfortable with.

So I have to either, not care about printing or use a different sidearm.

How do you approach such a dilemma?

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AzTex
 

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I do what I can not to print, but it happens for time to time, and I simply don't care. If people even notice, nobody has ever confronted me about it.
 
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Sig 229 is about same height as a 1911.
With the proper holster & shirt, should be able to conceal with minimal printing.
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Having the pistol canted forward and wearing a loose fitting cover shirt my 1911 is well concealed; I avoid printing, I care.
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I've CCed my P226 & full sized 1911 without any printing issues. You might want to look at "how" you carry. Your holster (IWB or OWB) and position play major roles in printing. For OWB I use D.M. Bullard's "Bodyguard" and have had zero issues printing no matter what I carry.
 

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My question would be, why attempt to conceal it if it's that obvious?
 
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When I lived in AZ (late 70's to late 80's), without a permit you had to print.
You could open carry, or concealish carry. As long as any part of the firearm or holster was showing.
I usually carried a snub revolver, cross-draw, under a zip hoodie. About an inch of holster showed.

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In your case it's likely the position of carry and/or the ride height maybe. You don't say anything about your body type and size but, believe me, that can make a difference in carrying as well. If you're ever needing to "ultra conceal", then yeah, you'll need a new firearm unless you're Paul Bunyan. That said, printing a bit is not a big deal as most people don't even look twice at those around them. Look into the pattern of your shirt as well, as some patterns tend to break up the unnatural profile of something that shouldn't normally be part of the human form.
 

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If it is much of a personal concern, simply buy a bit larger cover shirt...pretty easy fix.
 

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You can conceal anything if you are willing to alter your clothing style and selection to do it.

The reality is, that there are guns designed for service duty, and guns designed for concealed carry. The latter is evidenced by the literally dozens of smaller, and, pocket sized guns that have flooded the market over the last decade since concealed carry laws have been established nation wide.

I totally understand the dilemma, because when I started, concealed carry was not popular, the market was very limited, and you were pretty much limited by that selection.

True concealment is like a truth..... it either is, or it's a lie.

What I have found over the years is that for me, I find it impossible to carry a service size weapon completely concealed , and yet readily accessible, in a manner that is agreeable to me for many of my waking hours.
And, after so many years of doing it, I find that I really don't want to feel "strapped" with a gun anymore.

However, in this day and time, I also find it prudent to have "something", so I have a battery of pistols that accompany me to satisfy my dress needs or requirements on any given day.

A j frame in the pocket, or a small auto meets many of those requirements in hot weather, where the prescribed clothing is minimal.
Many times, a baby Glock carried AIWB, with a looser fitting shirt may get the nod.

Its totally dependent on the user, and what they are willing to put up with, and dress around.
So, you may eventually find the need to expand your horizons on your choices.
 

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Howdy,

I know other states allow open carry as well but didn't look it up so will call this "Arizona Carry"

What I mean by this is concealed carry with a "who cares if I print" attitude.
If that's acceptable in AZ, then carry whatever you like, and printing be damned. Know that wouldn't fly when I lived in NY, doubt it would fly here in SC. There's a grey area between a "bulge that may, or may not, be a gun" and "oh yeah, he's got a 1911 on his hip" but I try to stick close to the "bulge" end of that spectrum as possible by pocket carrying a J frame S&W.
 

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Howdy,

I know other states allow open carry as well but didn't look it up so will call this "Arizona Carry"

What I mean by this is concealed carry with a "who cares if I print" attitude.

Not so much attitude as result.

My interest in this is I really want to carry my Sig P229 but it prints pretty heavy with even wearing a large shirt. If I was trying to be ultra conceal this would not be the option.

BUT it's the sidearm I am most comfortable with.

So I have to either, not care about printing or use a different sidearm.

How do you approach such a dilemma?

Thanks,

AzTex
to me, it's no dilemma at all, as it really doesn't matter
the only reason it might be a dilemma is fear, and as Az is a constitutional state, there's no fear of legal consequences
now if it's a personal privacy matter, then you will have to carry a smaller gun, or do a lot of "dressing around" the gun you are most comfortable with (holsters, belts, cover garments)
 

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How do you approach such a dilemma?

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AzTex
Aztex, an alternative might be to not worry about it.
Just out of curiousity, why the big concern?
The public, in general, doesn't look that closely, and doesn't care.
Nobody is looking.............. :icon_neutral:
 

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Aztex, an alternative might be to not worry about it.
Just out of curiousity, why the big concern?
The public, in general, doesn't look that closely, and doesn't care.
Nobody is looking.............. :icon_neutral:
Not a big concern but any study of carrying addresses the pros and cons of printing in the abstract.

On the forum I thought I could get some practical real life opinions.

You're right though! I was at Safeway and trying to spot CCW's and had suspicions of several but could see no clear printing.

Lot's of lumpy people! :D

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AzTex
 

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It's all in the holster and not wearing shirts that suck to ya like a wetsuit. I routinely carry a 4in Ruger GP100 in an sourdough pancake made by simplyrugged. My cop friends can't spot it on me so I'm certain it can be done.
 

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Never could understand wanting to open carry or not care if the firearm prints, as this gives the bad guys an advantage if they mean to do you harm. They know where you weapon is located, they know who is armed, etc. I'd rather they were surprised and confronted on my terms.
 

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Lot's of lumpy people! :D

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AzTex
hammer hits nail, there ya go, that's it right there!!!! :yup:
......in reality, ultimately nobody is looking (with the exception, maybe, of a new carrier), and ultimately nobody cares (with the exception, maybe, of a new carrier).
you're fortunate to live in a state where as a good citizen, your constitutional carry rights are recognized
relax, enjoy, and protect.........
 
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