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Responsibility's a booger, particularly when you don't accept it.

Keep control of your weapons, at all times. Secure unused weapons, at all times. Accept the responsibility for them ... or accept the consequences. There is no other choice.
 

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Can't say it much better than ccw9mm.

To those who may not have kids (or ones that live at home), if others happen to bring theirs (announced or not), please immediately secure all firearms. Of course, we all probably know this but a reminder never hurt anybody.
 

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To those who may not have kids (or ones that live at home), if others happen to bring theirs (announced or not), please immediately secure all firearms. Of course, we all probably know this but a reminder never hurt anybody.
It's so easy. Nobody will die of starvation standing on the porch for 30secs. When the alternative is this sort of outcome, one would think folks would be a tad more diligent in their thinking, along these lines.

If nothing else, it's a good example of how carrying on one's person can avoid such situations.
 

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The only thing I noticed was the mention of being a veteran and one mentioning that the kid picked up the weapon and asked what it was before the shooting.
 

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The only thing I noticed was the mention of being a veteran and one mentioning that the kid picked up the weapon and asked what it was.
Ditto. Neither one of which would seem to advance a liberal agenda in any way I can think of. I'm all for bashing the media when it's warranted, but not so much inventing reasons to do it.
 

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...did you read them both? it jumped right out at me...the victim was an Iraqi war veteran and special forces hero...and leaves 2 children...
 

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...did you read them both? it jumped right out at me...the victim was an Iraqi war veteran and special forces hero...and leaves 2 children...
Ah, I'm guessing.. ?

The boy was taken to a police substation to undergo interviews, and did not appear to realize what he did, MyFoxPhoenix.com reported. The boy is now with his mother.
 

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Didn't see the edit.
 

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...it's not "inventing" when the difference is there in black, white, and a color picture...and the omission of the father's service is certainly part of the liberal agenda...makes it appear less a tragedy and more just another evil gun story...
Ditto. Neither one of which would seem to advance a liberal agenda in any way I can think of. I'm all for bashing the media when it's warranted, but not so much inventing reasons to do it.
 

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100% responsibility lies with the father. It is our responsibility as adults to teach children.

Rules for kids-
Do not touch a gun without parent permission
If you see a gun left out, stop. Leave it alone. Tell an adult.
 

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...did you read them both? it jumped right out at me...the victim was an Iraqi war veteran and special forces hero...and leaves 2 children...
I saw that. I guess I'm missing how that doesn't advance CNN's liberal agenda. In fact, seems like someone so inclined could spin that into much more of an anti-gun headline than was done.
 

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...it's not "inventing" when the difference is there in black, white, and a color picture...and the omission of the father's service is certainly part of the liberal agenda...makes it appear less a tragedy and more just another evil gun story...
Okay, boss. Seems like CNN coulda had some quotes about how terrible it is that this guy survived combat but couldn't survive the evil gun culture of his own country, though.
 

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100% responsibility lies with the father. It is our responsibility as adults to teach children.

Rules for kids-
Do not touch a gun without parent permission
If you see a gun left out, stop. Leave it alone. Tell an adult.
WHAT?! The boy was four. I trained my kid when he was young. You cannot predict what a 4 year old can do. If it was that simple kids would never do anything worng because all you need to do is "obviously" give them a set of instructions and they will surely follow them. Good grief.
 

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WHAT?! The boy was four. I trained my kid when he was young. You cannot predict what a 4 year old can do. If it was that simple kids would never do anything worng because all you need to do is "obviously" give them a set of instructions and they will surely follow them. Good grief.
Agreed. And while this is pure speculation on my part, I would guess that a special forces veteran had taught his 4-year-old some gun safety. Sometimes even my kids don't do what I tell them, and as you can all imagine, my kids are perfect.
 
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...my granddaughter, who just turned five, repeated those same rules to me over 8 months ago after she asked me what was in a case while we were all visiting her great-grandma...her Dad, my son, also an Iraqi veteran, had already very carefully taught her...she was in my home for a birthday bash last night and I heard her talking to Nana about the same thing...and spouted the rules again...the lessons stuck...she and her Mom and Nana were discussing this very story...

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100% responsibility lies with the father. It is our responsibility as adults to teach children.

Rules for kids-
Do not touch a gun without parent permission
If you see a gun left out, stop. Leave it alone. Tell an adult.
 
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