Fear of being mistaken for the criminal should be a concern of anyone carrying a gun for self defense, not just teachers. Best advice to not be mistaken for the criminal is to put the gun away before law enforcement arrives in order to not appear a threat when the government arrives with their guns drawn.Kid carry? No. Teacher carry? I feel if a teacher wants to CC they should be able to but my fear would be having a first responder mistake them for the shooter & make a bad situation worse.
That particular argument is one posed by all who oppose the authorization of concealed carry in an otherwise non-permissive environment. Given the response time of LEO vs that of someone already on the scene, the problem will most often already be solved before first responders enter.Kid carry? No. Teacher carry? I feel if a teacher wants to CC they should be able to but my fear would be having a first responder mistake them for the shooter & make a bad situation worse.
In a school no they are not.Out of curiosity, how does denying a 17 year old the right to carry a gun mesh with the 2A? Is a 17 year old not one of “the people”?
Well, that yielded some interesting results. I think the word "select" was lost on some people, and I concur the legal hurdles are enormous, but some of the flippant responses are reminiscent of what the antis say about all gun owners, particularity those who carry.
However, I did want to list a few thoughts on why I posted such a question...
- I am younger than the majority of active posters here, graduating HS in 1994, so its more "recent" to me than many others.
- By the time I was a Jr and Sr., I was armed essentially all the time when off-campus or not at some specifically sanctioned activity. I carried the key to the family gun safe next to my band locker key and essentially served as family armorer.
- As Senior Patrol Leader for my Boy Scout Troop, I carried a sidearm when we hosted our own summer camp in the National Forest and on other campouts- It was the right thing to do.
- I don't view it as being much of a stretch that my personal carry of weapon in school would have been responsible and reasonable. I know several of my friends who I would have felt the same about.
- Looking at some the older Scouts in my son's current Troop, I see some of the same qualities that would make me think they would be good candidates, as well.
There many 16 - 18 year olds who I would entrust to carry a weapon way more than some self-professed adults who do currently.
Glad somebody picked up on that, I was wondering if my comment was too subtle.In a school no they are not.
In many cases the Supreme Court has held that those below the age of majority do not have the same rights as adults.
In New Jersey v T.L.O. they go into the differences regarding the Fourth Amendment created by the relationship between students and school staff. In other cases they specify differences in the First Amendment. Also, juveniles do not have automatically have a right to bail.
Yes- From the Scoutmaster, who thought it was an excellent idea, and quoting current BSA policy is kinda silly for something 25 years ago. Of course, it's not like the BSA legal team is going to lift a tasseled loafer to help you in case of a situation in the Colorado boonies.Who decided that "...It was the right thing to do."?
Just because one person does it, doesn't make it right to do.
The Boy Scouts say NO, too. Did you get a special permission or just do your own thing?