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Update: the gunshow actually got shut down because a man got arrested apparently for not getting his gun background checked in TEXAS and got held for an hour and released without charges. Then HEB the grocery store who owns the building pulled the plug and said no more gun shows because of this "arrest". Obviously they were threatened like the gunshow owner was by the ATF and austin police department.
 

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At the Direction of the Austin Police Department and the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms,
ONLY LICENSED FFL DEALERS will be allowed to set up and sell firearms at the N. Austin Show Location.

The gun show organizer should take his buisness out of the city of Austin, and Travis County, up north to Williamson County. Austin and Travis County are basically lost causes to the Red's (democrat, commie, same diff)

With that being said, this action by the BATF, APD does appear to be an affront on our 2nd ammendment rights.

I wasn't aware of any reciently passed laws that addessed the so-called "gunshow loophole". It sounds like our Federal and Local government have decided to start making their own laws now.
This new hosting company, texasgunshows, was renting out space down south of the river a few months ago, the SAXET show was in the crocket center. The SAXET show has been canceled for a few months now, I don't know why, but apparently texasgunshows has taken over the crocket center.

I went to the texasgunshows in south austin 2 months ago and it was the WORST gunshow I've ever been to. Total waste of seven bucks. Only two large vendors with high prices on pistols. I vowed never to return. When my wife and I go, that's about $15 flushed down the toilet.'

some more reading here...

Only FFLs at Austin Shows?!?
 

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no laws have been passed. Government just wants to train the sheep to accept it and everyone will think it is law. they will pass it later.
 

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They'll continue only as long as the citizens abide by non-laws! This is bullying, and illegal bullying at that!

Stand up for your rights or kneel in chains!
 

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Brett Baker:800-432-3113 this is the corporate guy at a heb that folded and let us down instead of standing up. Be nice it's not his fault he got bullied but let him know you want him to reconsider letting the gun show continue.

Mayor 512-974-2200 mayor was "out of town" but I left a message with his secretary

michael mcdonald 512-974-2307 they told me to get ahold of the police chief here but this was the city organizor

Austin police dep. 512-972-9896 this is the austin police dept. NON emergency number. Let them know you want to speak to the chief

I don't know the number of the local atf agency in austin
 

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Gee, if any of the ATF agents has the last name od 'Soprano’, it all makes sense.
 

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Like I've always said, Austin (Travis County) is a bastion of liberalism. On the face it appears to be an affront on our rights and more specifically the rights of the people of Texas.
I hope to hear something coming out of Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott's office on this.
Texas Attorney General

The feds are just getting too big for their shoes.


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Did the BATF ban private gun sales at Austin Gun Show?

Apparently these flyers where being handed out at the show this weekend. :hand1:

Sorry, can't get the actual flyer to post


Fixed.
 

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Apparently these flyers where being handed out at the show this weekend. :hand1:

Sorry, can't get the actual flyer to post


Fixed.
I like it when they pass out a flier with no citation of statue, rule code, or regulation; just we said so!

Even a noob on the forum knows without a cite it ain't right!
 

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#2, selling of firearms in the parking lot will not be permitted

(but exchanging info and selling later is AOK wink wink). I suppose it's their private property and they can ask you to leave if they see a sale going on in the parking lot, but there's no law against this other than a potential trespassing if you refuse to leave.
 

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Gun show in texas targeted

A local radio show in the town I currently lived in was discussing a gun show in Texas in which the local authorities requested than no guns be sold at the show. The radio host said that gun shows are unfairly targeted.

It is my opinion that gun shows are not unfairly targeted and that not only should all sales at a gun show require a background check but that every time a gun is transferred from one owner to another a background check should be required. Here in Missouri a private owner can sell a gun anyone. To me this sounds irresponsible. The individual selling the gun has no clue if the buyer is a mentally disturbed felon with 10 counts of aggravated assault and has just had a restraining order put on them by their girl friend.

Does anyone agree with me?
 

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Jim I think I am going to have to respectfully disagree. While naturally there may be concerns, do I take the same precautions when selling a car to someone? They may be a felon, might have their license suspended and may use the car in a DUI. The analogy works fairly well, and of course we wouldn't want to go that far.

Face to face sales are a case where the seller needs to take reasonable precaution, and in many states such as AZ it is a crime to knowingly sell a firearm to a prohibited possessor or someone who intends to commit a crime with it. However, most FTF sellers I see here require their purchaser to have a valid AZ CCW permit or at the very least a DL that they can search through a criminal database (free online) to make a perfunctory verification that they are not a felon.

That is a FAR cry from a federally mandated background check on face to face sales. I would not be for that one bit; I want less government, not more.
 

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respectfully dis-agree

...same here.

I can sell my pick up truck face-to-face. why not my firearms? my property--my right to sell it to whoever I want to.

more people are slaughtered daily by nut-case vehicle owners; do we put these "buyers" through the wringer? no.

reasonable precautions--DL--etc., are good enough. Just a scam for more gun control. Less gobmint--not more.

 

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The few people I've met for FTF sales of my very few private firearm sales have been VERY nice folks...Most / All a CHL aholders and firearm enthusiasts, reputations on private chat forums, previous history of buy/sell and always with ID and the standard questions.. Most folks I'd have no qualms about inviting to dinner wild wild west style let the horse water at the well and have a nice homecooked before another day in the saddle. Our 2nd ammendment rights are filtered enough already.
 

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It is my opinion that gun shows are not unfairly targeted and that not only should all sales at a gun show require a background check but that every time a gun is transferred from one owner to another a background check should be required. Here in Missouri a private owner can sell a gun anyone. To me this sounds irresponsible. The individual selling the gun has no clue if the buyer is a mentally disturbed felon with 10 counts of aggravated assault and has just had a restraining order put on them by their girl friend.

Does anyone agree with me?
I doubt you'll find many, if anyone here that agrees with you.

More people are killed every year by cars than by guns, yet there is no background check required to purchase a car.

Also, unless something has changed that I'm not aware of, a private individual can not run a NICS check, you must be a FFL dealer to access the system.
 

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Have some fun, just in case you are on camera! New York City Mayor Michael Bloomturd's rats and spies have been pestering us at and outside of our local Bill Goodman Gun and Knife Shows, getting their poop-hole "loop-hole" anecdotal evidence and proof with audio and digital images, e.g., "straw buyers"; "no background checks"; "parking-lot sales", etc. I have a hunch, with the entrapment techniques of the Brady Bunch. Well, we started having fun with it and with them, just in case we were being recorded on video or audio, like ya know, by being profane with Mayor Bloomturd's name, laughing about him and his rats and spies and Brady gals and guys. There, let them try and edit out our clever comical comments or share and spread them out there to and with those sensitive folks who care. These folks ought to be able to handle our jokes.
 

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A local radio show in the town I currently lived in was discussing a gun show in Texas in which the local authorities requested than no guns be sold at the show. The radio host said that gun shows are unfairly targeted.

It is my opinion that gun shows are not unfairly targeted and that not only should all sales at a gun show require a background check but that every time a gun is transferred from one owner to another a background check should be required. Here in Missouri a private owner can sell a gun anyone. To me this sounds irresponsible. The individual selling the gun has no clue if the buyer is a mentally disturbed felon with 10 counts of aggravated assault and has just had a restraining order put on them by their girl friend.

Does anyone agree with me?


Nope.
 
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