[Biomortis]

I have read in numerous places that it is unwise to use reloaded ammo in the Glock 27 due to part of the chamber not being reinforced. At my local range, they carry Atlanta Arms and Ammo FMJ's and nothing on the box stated they were reloads however after shooting a couple clips, I noticed there was quite a lot of soot forming on the exterior and my accuracy was not consistent. I noticed that the shells were all different manufactures from Remington to CCI to Wolf. That was my fault for not closely examining all of the ammunition prior to loading. Anyways, is there any truth to that regarding the G27?

I have stocked up on Federal FMJ's and Remington UMC JHP's since then for the bulk of my range shooting as I have limited funds. Even after a 150 round session, there was almost no fouling compared to less than 50 of the AA&A ammo. I'm guessing its lousy powder. Also, I wonder if there are any laws being broken regarding not having any disclosure regarding that they are reloads.

I have nothing against reloads as I use them in my uncle's Super Redhawk .44 all the time. I just don't want a fatal failure if I use them in the future in the G27.

 

[2ndsupporter]

Lee Precision mentions that it is the powder and powder company (Accurate) data that you do not want to use.

Accurate says it's okay!

I would let a gun smith check it out!

This is the only time I seen this warning, although I'm not a Glock guy!

Lee Precision, Inc. Reloading Tools and Equipment: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

http://www.accuratepowder.com/Safety.htm

 

[RoadRunner71]

GLOCK is fairly rigid on the subject. Reloads VOID your warranty. I had a similar question regarding Zero ammo. I was never able to get a specific answer on that particular brand. I was just told that ANY reload voids the warranty.

They do not want hot-loaded ammo causing a catastrophic failure and then having it blamed on the gun.

Do what you want, but if in doubt, stick with the factory stuff.

Good luck.

 

[Majorlk]

Every manufacturer says not to use handloads/reloads in their firearms.

It's a plausible deniability issue in case there's a problem.

There is nothing in properly reloaded ammunition that makes is any more or any less "dangerous" than factory loaded ammo.

The problem with the G27 (and other .40S&W models) was the the original barrels did not fully support the base of the cartridge and +P loads had some rather spectacular case ruptures.

This condition has long been resolved. There no reason not to use handloads/reloads in Glocks, as long as they don't violate SAAMI pressure limits.

As for the soot and so forth, some powders, particularly medium-fast flake powders such as Unique, are dirty and that is what a lot of reloaders use. Ball powders are less dirty, but there is no such thing as a perfectly "clean" powder that leaves no residue.

 

[Ram Rod]

I had a Kb years ago with my G17 shooting Enforcer brand factory reloaded 9mm 147gr brass case, copper jacket ammunition. After that, I pulled the rest of them (several boxes).

 

[jbs]

Checked Georgia arms ammo (40 S&W) ran thru a G22 and my beretta. The rounds thru the glock had the pregnant bulge. The beretta rounds were fine. The cases from the glock can be straightened and reloaded again but i wouldn't fire them through a glock again. If the stretched area happens to line up in the exact spot again it could blow out. Had no problem with accuracy, a little dirtier than say remington umc.

 

[Biomortis]

I too noticed the pregnant bulges on the casings. That was my primary cause for my concern in researching this.

 

[Majorlk]

I too noticed the pregnant bulges on the casings. That was my primary cause for my concern in researching this.

Is the Georgia Arms ammo the only one that shows a case bulge in your Glock?

Same question for jbs, please.

 

[Blue Thunder]

AA Reloads??

Never a problem here. I always check any purchased Ammo with a Case Guage and all of my reloaded ammo. If it does not fit into the guage (lots easier than removing the barrel) shoot all of it. I also have a G-RX to resize .40S&W cases that were shot in an unsupported barrel. I use a fully supported barrel in my Glock.

Good Luck Reloading 40S&W

 

[Biomortis]

Just for clarification, Georgia Arms and Atlanta Arms and Ammo are two different companies.

Majorlk - I honestly can't remember if the factory ammo had the bulges as well. I will save some casings this weekend and post pictures. I will shoot some Federal FMJ, Remington UMC JHP and Winchester 165 and 180 gr PDX1 JHP

It is a new G27 and according to the factory test rounds, was tested on 6/19/09 with 2 CCI rounds. There is a little bulging all the way around both casings about 2mm from the rim.

 

[Majorlk]

I didn't mean to imply that Atlanta Arms and Georgia Arms were the same. Sorry if I gave that impression.

Most ammo (including factory-fresh) pushing the pressure limits will exhibit some bulging, to one degree or another, in semi-autos. This is due to the tolerance in the barrel. A barrel that leave part of the case head unsupported will exhibit it more in that one area.

The only reason I can think of why reloaded ammo would show more, is that it has already been fired and resized once. Virtually all of my reloading for my semi-autos has been mid-range loads for plinking, I haven't seen it in my two 9mm guns. I haven't started reloading for my .40S&W, so I don't know if it will show up there.

I have some 9mm cases that have been reloaded four or five times.

 

[Tubby45]

Also, I wonder if there are any laws being broken regarding not having any disclosure regarding that they are reloads.

Are you serious?:haha:

 

[kazzaerexys]

Two regular Glock shooters at my IDPA club use nothing but AA 9mm. They've apparently never had problems with this. As a reloader, I find a lot of bulged brass on our range...and we have a lot of Glock shooters, in all calibers.

That's what Lee full-length resizing dies are for. :biggrin2:

 

[hogdaddy]

I won't order any more frome them & it's not the product it's the SERVICE!!

 

[Biomortis]

Are you serious?:haha:

Serious as a heart attack Tubby. I can't sell an instrument to someone as brand new if its used so the fact that I was sold ammunition, in a professional printed box that had no labeling, marking, or notation of any kind, as well as the range not telling me they were reloads, really bothers me.

You want to sell me reloads? No problem, just tell me they are reloads, especially on a non-returnable product.

 

[Tubby45]

No, there are no laws being broken. If you are that anal about being informed, don't buy ammunition from anyone but the big guys who manufacture only new ammunition.

 

[jca1]

Some brand name stuff are reloads too right? Anyone know which ones?

 

[Tubby45]

Black Hills Blue, Georgia Arms is a mix, Ultramax, Miwall, HSM, and a host of smaller manufacturers such as my company.

 

[PHB]

Simple rule load your own shoot your own I will not shoot reloads of others MHO

Be safe

 

[Biomortis]

Really Tubby, I'm being anal? Easy scenario. Let's say I'm at the range shooting this Atlanta ammo and something completely unrelated to the ammo happens to my Glock 27. I send it back to Glock for service and they ask, "What brand ammo were you shooting in this?" and I innocently answer, "Atlanta Ammo and Arm" Their reply, "Ahhh, well those are known reloads and therefore your warranty is no longer valid"

You know what, fine, I'm anal, but about information. I like to be honestly and openly informed about the product I am buying. Not labeling them as reloads is a dishonest business practice.