I use my Beretta M92F for IDPA competition only, these days. It is a superbly accurate light recoil bullet launcher. But then, paper doesn't shoot back. IDPA is important for the tactical practice not so much specific guns. Having said that, as Jeff Cooper recently said (and with which I agree): Even the most outstanding example of a 9mm handgun serves best as a badge of office. When you need a pistol, you need a real serious manstopping caliber. That's why the 1911 has made such a resurgence in the "sandbox." Troops are discovering it takes an average of three shots to drop "Hadji." That being the case, the hi-cap mag "advantage" is quickly negated.Risque007 said:Greetings :banana: :
Does anyone on here either shoot and/or carry a full-size Beretta pistol on a regular basis? If so, what is your take on them? What is the best carry rig for this pistol?Feel free to share pics.
Well considering the 9mm was first designed for use in SMG's I'd agree that if you're willing to put more than one round in a BG, it can be a useful tool. I consider the 9mm at the bottom end of true defensive calibers. Anything less is a mouse caliber. Of course we all know the FIRST rule of gunfighting is....Have a GUN!Prospector said:I qualified with, and conceal-carried my 92F before stepping up to a 1911. I still shoot it and sometimes carry it. Have put over 15k rounds thru and never, ever had a malfunction. Jeff Cooper comments aside, I'd feel very comfortable with a 9mm for protection. I hit what I shoot at, no brag, just fact. :redface:
Sure it's been killing folks...at five to ten rounds a person from an MP40 or whatever. Heck the POPE got hit with a 9mm and he lived! Even barring intervention from "above," if he'd been hit with a 45 multiple times, he'd be making conversation face to face with the man upstairs....Miggy said:And yet it has been killing people for over 100 years....go figure :biggrin:
You gotta love the 45 v 9mm discussion :smile:
ExSoldier762 said:if he'd been hit with a 45 multiple times, he'd be making conversation face to face with the man upstairs....
Indeed. I think the 9mm vs. .45 horse is thoroughly dead, folks. Let the poor thing rest in peace....TheGreatGonzo said:Don't bet your life...or somebody else's...on that. I personally observed a bad guy take three (three being "multiple") center mass hits with 230-grain Hydroshock and proceed to lead a foot pursuit for another 8 - 10 minutes, then fight while being handcuffed. No pistol caliber is a "manstopper". Pistols are defensive weapons, at best. I carry a .357Sig or a .45ACP most of the time, but I'm perfectly comfortable with a good 9mm round. Two 9mm rounds in the melon-bag will stop the action a lot faster than five .45 rounds in the arms and ass.
My humble opinion,