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Besides carrying a gun for self-defense, does anybody take martial arts, RBSD classes, or carry any other kind of weapon (pepper spray, impact weapons, etc.)?

 

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What else carried?

With whatever firearms I carry I also carry OC10 spray and a combat folder of some sort. The reason I carry the spray is because I don\'t want to shoot anybody thats not attempting to kill me. The reason I carry the knife is that you never know when you might need a can opener.:lol:
 

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Learned a little \'Bar-room do'in a previous life. Now, I train a few days a week w my cousin who is a devout disciple of Mr. Parker\'s Kenpo. I was a fairly accomplished wrestler in highschool and college, and have faired ok in differences of opinion that went south. Played college ball (small college) and have tried to keep myself in shape here in my mid 30\'s. Suppose one of my defences is to not appear as a soft target. I carry a Surefire light as well as a pair of knives. Spyderco Delica and ECK.
I communicate terribly. This is not supposed to make me sound like meme :Oor a cage fighter. Just an old washed up washed out highschool athelete trying to keep up with the younger breed. That\'s right, I am ......
Al Bundy.

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Originally posted by Betty
Besides carrying a gun for self-defense, does anybody take martial arts, RBSD classes, or carry any other kind of weapon (pepper spray, impact weapons, etc.)?

Run-fu, Pepper-fu, Baton-fu, Gun-fu, in that order. I probably will, now that I have one, take an ASP baton class or two.
 

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Run-fu. :lol:

I\'ve picked up some hand-to-hand skills from various sources - nothing fancy, just stuff I can do that includes breaking free of arm/wrist grabs, good ol'eye gouges, headbutts, chin jabs, etc, etc. I\'ll do whatever I have to do. Men have sensitive crotches, which helps, too. :D

I do have a heavy bag that I attack with my baton or gloves.
 

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Spent a good amount of time with Lee Wedlake & Huk Planas both of whom were educated in the Ed Parker Sr Kenpo system.

Also spent some time studying Krav Maga and Aikido.

Competed in Judo in College.

Been a bouncer in several bars across the US that allowed me to practice some skills. Thank God I always left the bars under my own steam..

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I\'ve been trained by folks from various disciplines during my time in the Marines and as a reserve cop.

No Marquis de Queensbury devotee here.

Eyes, throat, crotch (works equally well on women), sternum, knees, shins, toes/instep...all primary targets using forehead/hand/forearm/elbow/knees/feet and fingernails.

\"Field expedient\" weapons are virtually everywhere...ballpoint pen, car key, flashlight, roll of dimes (my personal favorite...gives an average person a punch like Mike Tyson). A dry chemical fire extinguisher can also be employed as a defensive weapon...btw, I happen to know for sure that the powder stuff is not toxic. The recipient will need to get his eyes flushed out, however.

If somebody happens to get ahold of you, I\'ve been known to bite the ever-living-crap out of someone to break the hold.

Whatever it takes.

When I\'m doing a walk-around on my 18 wheeler first thing every morning I always have a 5 D cell Maglite in my left hand and my all purpose claw hammer in my right. Near to hand from the driver\'s seat is a 4 oz flip top squeeze bottle of household ammonia...to be applied to the upper chest area, not directly in the face. Of course, I\'d prefer a firearm but it\'s more trouble than it\'s worth with DOT cops.. and I go to Chicago every week. :no:
 

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i\'m an expert at AJBH. (alaskan ju boo hoo).

basically it entails falling to the ground and crying like a baby. but its only a diversionary tactic. for once i\'m on the ground i tuck my legs up so i\'m like a giant bowling ball and i can either bowl over the bad guys, or just roll away to safety.
 

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Originally posted by spacemanspiff
i\'m an expert at AJBH. (alaskan ju boo hoo).

basically it entails falling to the ground and crying like a baby. but its only a diversionary tactic. for once i\'m on the ground i tuck my legs up so i\'m like a giant bowling ball and i can either bowl over the bad guys, or just roll away to safety.
ROFLMAO :lol:
 

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Hand to hand in the academy - I think the style is called joke-fu. I don\'t carry less than lethal off duty. I should, but don\'t right now.
Having seen inmates shake off both Taser and LE strength OC, I have more confidence in my sidearm.....
Oddly enough, an instructor in one of my CCW classes had stats about those who turn and run from a drawn gun - survival rate was very high! Go figure....not my idea of a viable option, though...
 

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Spaceman, I can\'t thank you enough for the visual. I about spit spiked Hot cocoa onto my monitor.

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Originally posted by spacemanspiff
i\'m an expert at AJBH. (alaskan ju boo hoo).

basically it entails falling to the ground and crying like a baby. but its only a diversionary tactic. for once i\'m on the ground i tuck my legs up so i\'m like a giant bowling ball and i can either bowl over the bad guys, or just roll away to safety.
 

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NO

My Judo training is about 50 years ago, and was basic only (SAC combat crewmember), long forgotten.

Some more recent OC and handgun retention Instructor courses.

At my age, avoidance is #1.
 

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Nine years of Aikido and a black-belt in Tae Kwon Do. The Aikido has served me well a few times, the Tae Kwon Do came from a mini-mall school, and I\'ve never even considered using it in real life.
 

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I have no formal training what so ever, just the usual rough and tumble over 46 years. However, last spring I went to a yard sale and there on the table was a leather sap for .50 cents. I snatched it up and didn\'t even try to talk the lady down on the price. It fits nicely in my back pocket.
 

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Slapper

Don\'t know if I could deploy it properly, but there is a 12\" one sitting on my desk. Has old Cops initals carved in the leather of the grip:). Do not even know if they are legal for citizens in this state.

jdsummer...sure hope I never have to find out;).
 

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Saps aren\'t legal in TN, which is silly. :rolleyes:
 

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I have trained in Martial arts since I was 14 (34) now. I am a Shodan in Karate (Shorei-Goju Ryu, a Ni-dan in Kyudo, and a 5th Kyu in Aikido. Last year (3/2003) I had occasion to use my training against two drunk dumbass Japanese guys who thought it would be a good idea to get in the skinny white boy\'s face. Bad career move on their part; I scuffed \'em both using both Karate kickes and punches and Aikido arm bars.

I have also dabbled in a bit of Filipino stick/knife fighting, and some Ground fighting. I got OC certified back when I was working security as a part-time job, and occasionally carried it as well as my gun. Here in Japan, Sarah Brady\'s gun control paradise/wet dream, only the cops and the criminals/yakuza have guns. But much to my pleasant surprise, I was able to buy a 21\" ASP baton. I keep it in my car. Not sure what the legalities are about it though. I *do* know it is illegal to carry a knife with more than a 4cm blade \"without good reason\", so that pretty much just leaves the ASP and hand to hand for dealing with the (thankfully few) bad guys here.
 

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Last 25 years in Kenpo, 15 years in Escrima, (Derobio and some Serrada). Wrestling, Certified F.A.S.T. Defense instructor, and some Judo/ground with a PD Officer here.

I would agree with several of the posts above though, run first, If you can\'t, do it anyway, if you still can\'t, then any quick fight stopper is what I do. primary target like eyes, Knee, or throat. Anything for an opening to get away.

The last couple of years my school has started utilizing the F.A.S.T. Defense system I mentioned earlier under Bill Kipp. (Fear Adrenaline Stress Training scenarios). We utilize specialized \"bulletman\" suits and \"woofing\" drills and its been a real eye opener. I\'ve trained absolute novices, police officers, and veteran martial artists. and I can say that by the end of the class, they are all pretty much beating the living crap out of us pretty equally effectively. The beginning of the class though, is what is so amazing. Most of these people have not been in actual situations, and without that, many of them experience adrenaline lock and freeze. All the training goes right out the window. Much of the fancier martial arts stuff is the first to go south, (not knocking Martial arts BTW, I do own my own school) but there is pretty, then there is effective. Pretty isn\'t always effective, but effective is ALWAYS pretty:) (at least to me:)) With weapons, we do the Tueller drill and focus heavily on de escalation exercises, awareness and footwork.
 
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