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recently I acquired a lightly-used bianchi 9R2 upside down shoulder holster off ebay. it's marked ".38/.357" and "S&W", and my intent was to use it with a 1970s era s&w mod 19 2.5" barrel revolver (which I also recently acquired). but here's the thing. the holster will not completely close around the revolver. i had always thought the k frame would fit in the 9R2. but with the revolver inside the holster, the leather opening will not completely enclose the top of the revolver frame above the cylinder. there is no damage to the holster...it is in lightly-used condition. it does not appear to have shrunk in size. would appreciate any thoughts anyone may have on my problem.




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Years ago I had a Bianchi vertical shoulder holster I used to carry a Model 19 S&W. I never got the strap to secure and eventually cut it off. Since I have seen this happen before, and heard of similar issues with Bianchi holsters from that era, I can only assume it is a common flaw. As far as an answer to your problem goes, the only thing I can think of would be to take it to a leather shop and see if they can correct the fitting issue. Sorry I could not be of more help.
 
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thanks for the response. i have also thought of trying to find a leather shop that can possibly stretch the leather out a bit. it won't take much. i might wet it and try it myself. i've only got $15 in the holster anyway, so may as well. again...thanks.
 

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recently I acquired a lightly-used bianchi 9R2 upside down shoulder holster off ebay. it's marked ".38/.357" and "S&W", and my intent was to use it with a 1970s era s&w mod 19 2.5" barrel revolver (which I also recently acquired). but here's the thing. the holster will not completely close around the revolver. i had always thought the k frame would fit in the 9R2. but with the revolver inside the holster, the leather opening will not completely enclose the top of the revolver frame above the cylinder. there is no damage to the holster...it is in lightly-used condition. it does not appear to have shrunk in size. would appreciate any thoughts anyone may have on my problem.
Thanks for the PM, I'll reply here: Yes, the 9R2 is one of my creations and, IMHO, is the best of the series (9, 9r, 9r2, 209, etc.). You've got us guessing here, though; so to avoid that, post up some pics of your holstered revolver.

Exemplar: 9r2.jpg

The K frame version has a notable difference from your prior J frame version, in that the spring has reverse bends at the tips to clear the adjustable rear sight of the K frame. This leaves the upper front of the holster with an intentional gap, unlike the J which is fully closed. All this was done to allow us to cover the hammer spur to prevent snags.

To test your spring, hook a left-hand finger inside the trigger guard pocket of the holster, then snap your opposite hand finger through the spring. The holster should make a loud "pop" as the holster closes again. When that doesn't happen, the spring has been over-stressed and should be replaced -- but by whom, and with what?

More than anyone would want to know? I think so.:wink:
 

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red et al,
if I did this right (and that's not guaranteed), some pics of the Bianchi 9R2 should appear in this post. Someone along the way gave it a dye job..cordovan...and not badly executed. You can clearly see Dave Lauck's fixed rear sight I recently installed. But it should be inside the holster. While the fellow I purchased the holster from said it would fit a S&W Mod 19, I believe it was probably made for a Mod 60 .357 vice the K frame. Would appreciate your thoughts.
 

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416rig, Dave Lauck made my 1911! It's a DLSports Professional, like my avatar.
He does great work. ( Pistolsmith of the Year ).
 

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he does indeed! and he's a genuinely nice fellow. I hope to have a 1911 built by him one day. perhaps as a retirement gift to myself!
 

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That is the correct size for your K frame, so that's not the problem. You don't mention the result of the ''pop'' test?

From the pics I would say it's unsafe to use, because the design relies on the cylinder recesses on BOTH sides grasping the cylinder, and the spring to be full strength. We test this by inserting the unloaded revolver, grasping the harness's leather strap at its centre, and - holding the rig over a bed - snapping the rig hard to dislodge the revolver. If it even comes out even partly, throw the holster in the round file.
 

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well, I did the 'pop test' last night. it took three good snaps, but the weapon did come out onto the bed. the holster promptly went in the trash last night. thanks for your help, red! i'll be on the look out for another one on ebay.
 

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I suppose I may be posting a message to this thread about 3 1/2 years late but here goes. Here's a question for RedNichols. Red I hope this message finds you and finds you well. I've owned this Bianchi 9R1 shoulder holster for maybe 40 years now. I've used it on several small snub nose .38 revolvers and most recently I learned that by removing the compression screw completely from the holster I am even able to use this holster with my Taurus model 605 .357 Magnum with a 2" barrel. I recently acquired a Taurus Judge Public Defender Ultralite with a 2" barrel. It's a bigger gun than the 605 mainly because of the 2.5" 5-round cylinder. I was just wondering, Red, if you thought Bianchi makes anything these days in the way of these wonderful "clamshell" style holsters that might fit the Taurus Public Defenders. I do know from looking at my 9R1 that the inside of the holster has a cutout to accommodate the cylinder of the whatever revolver is inserted provided it is a small enough frame. I just love the concept of the clamshell holster and how nice and secure the gun feels yet how easily it can be yanked out. I am just surprised that since the Judge has been on the market since 2006 that Bianchi hasn't jumped on the smaller Judge, the Public Defender with a new clamshell design. And if not, Red, do you think the inside of a 9R2 could have its internal cutout enlarged to accommodate a 2.5" revolving cylinder? I know the 9R2 is about an inch longer in design than the 9R1.
 

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I suppose I may be posting a message to this thread about 3 1/2 years late but here goes. Here's a question for RedNichols. Red I hope this message finds you and finds you well. I've owned this Bianchi 9R1 shoulder holster for maybe 40 years now. I've used it on several small snub nose .38 revolvers and most recently I learned that by removing the compression screw completely from the holster I am even able to use this holster with my Taurus model 605 .357 Magnum with a 2" barrel. I recently acquired a Taurus Judge Public Defender Ultralite with a 2" barrel. It's a bigger gun than the 605 mainly because of the 2.5" 5-round cylinder. I was just wondering, Red, if you thought Bianchi makes anything these days in the way of these wonderful "clamshell" style holsters that might fit the Taurus Public Defenders. I do know from looking at my 9R1 that the inside of the holster has a cutout to accommodate the cylinder of the whatever revolver is inserted provided it is a small enough frame. I just love the concept of the clamshell holster and how nice and secure the gun feels yet how easily it can be yanked out. I am just surprised that since the Judge has been on the market since 2006 that Bianchi hasn't jumped on the smaller Judge, the Public Defender with a new clamshell design. And if not, Red, do you think the inside of a 9R2 could have its internal cutout enlarged to accommodate a 2.5" revolving cylinder? I know the 9R2 is about an inch longer in design than the 9R1.
I expect that Bianchi, a company three times removed from the company that I worked for, knows better than I what they make in the way of this particular style of holster :). That 'compression screw' isn't what you think it is: it's part of what keeps your gun from falling out! When you have a look at the original, which was the Berns-Martin 'Lightnin' (correct spelling), it has/had a hand-sewed welt in that spot. We discovered, the hard way, that having the equivalent by way of a Chicago post screw with rubber spacer inside, keeps the muzzle in position, and prevents the revolver from rotating inside the holster, then moving the cylinder out of correct orientation inside the cylinder cutouts, and losing it's security. That is, without it the revolver would draw, "but for the wrong reason": the muzzle was sliding into the fold, rather than being levered out by the barrel at that post and screw.

Put it back :)
 

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Maybe if you held a Taurus 605 in your hand and inserted it into the 9R1 without the screw you'd see that the gun is in no danger of falling out. I could stand there and shake it vigorously and it's not going to fall out. When you insert it the gun makes an audible sound as it "pops" into place. Grabbing the gun by its grip and pulling it forward is the only thing that releases it. Put it back? No way.
 

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As a new owner of a Ruger 38 Spl LCRX 1.87 I've been trying to find out if it will work in the the Bianchi 9, 9R1, 9R2 & the 209. Not one person I've talked to seems to know, so i thought what better place to go than where the experts are.

Thanks in advance.
 

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As a new owner of a Ruger 38 Spl LCRX 1.87 I've been trying to find out if it will work in the the Bianchi 9, 9R1, 9R2 & the 209. Not one person I've talked to seems to know, so i thought what better place to go than where the experts are.

Thanks in advance.
I have a 9R1. Can you show me a pic of the gun alongside a ruler or tape measure? I will be happy to try and evaluate for you.
 
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