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We sometimes joke about running over protestors but I disagree with this bill and even if passed I doubt it will get very far in the courts.

Bill would give lawsuit immunity to drivers who hit protesters

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North Carolina's House of Representatives is set to pass a bill that would grant civil lawsuit immunity to a driver who hits someone protesting on a public street.

House Bill 330 has passed on two readings and is expected to get final approval Thursday. It would then go to the Senate for consideration.

The proposal comes after several protests in recent years have taken over streets in the Triangle. Some have even shut down the Durham Freeway.
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What is the difference between hitting someone deliberately committing suicide by standing the road and hitting someone who is deliberately standing in the road for any other reason?
 

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What is the difference between hitting someone deliberately committing suicide by standing the road and hitting someone who is deliberately standing in the road for any other reason?
Five to ten years, I expect.
 

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Five to ten years, I expect.
They are both hit as a direct result of their own deliberate actions. Why should the hitter bear responsibility for one, but not the other?
 

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Intent. If you hit and kill someone by accident it's unintentional with no intent to harm anyone. If you see someone in the road and decide to run them down with the intent to kill them, that's murder. It may be rude and sometimes dangerous to block a road but it's generally not a capital offense in first world countries. If it turns out there is a God do you want to stand before Him and explain that you ran someone down to keep from missing your tee time?:wink:
 
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Intent. If you hit and kill someone by accident it's unintentional with no intent to harm anyone. If you see someone in the road and decide to run them down with the intent to kill them, that's murder. It may be rude and sometimes dangerous to block a road but it's generally not a capital offense in first world countries. If it turns out there is a God do you want to stand before Him and explain that you ran someone down to keep from missing your tee time?:wink:
Does the proposed law exempt prosecution and/or civil liability for one who deliberately strikes someone standing in the roadway for whatever reason?
 

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Beats me. I'm not a lawyer. But my guess is we'll have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
 

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Does the proposed law exempt prosecution and/or civil liability for one who deliberately strikes someone standing in the roadway for whatever reason?
I've not read the bill so that is a question I cannot answer.
 

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May 1 is coming up fast. In Seattle it is nuts every year with violent protests against capitalism. This year, a registered Socialist who is a sitting member on the City Council has actually called out for the shutting down of highways, interstates and airports by mass pedestrian protest. It will be ugly again. The State patrol has every single trooper working that day and Seattle PD will look to keep it under control...unlikely. I am sure here will be news stories a plenty.

That law is interesting. I wonder how it would actually play out. Accidentally running someone over? Just slowly hitting them when they wouldn't move out of way? So they couldn't sue you for the broken leg? Interesting.
 

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Well, there are several videos of self defense people that all pretty much agree that if caught in a mob/protestors situation, to get out if at all possible. Turn around and drive the wrong way on the shoulder of the road. BUT if you cannot get away, to NEVER stop, keep moving slowly, 5 - 10 mph but DO NOT STOP. Also, so not pull your gun until absolutely necessary as once they see the gun, they will pull theirs and you will be a in a bad position.

Remember, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
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Remember Reginald Denny? Off topic but I'm for truck drivers or any law abiding citizen for that matter being allowed to arm up without fear of job loss...If protesters are pulling people out of their vehicles and beating them, deadly force is justified imho. If cornered , and their is a clear threat to me and my family. My car is gonna be used in the appropriate manner to preserve life and prevent serious bodily harm.
 

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Protestors should stay out of the street. They should not be blocking traffic and keeping commuters and emergency vehicles from reaching their destinations. They've been allowed to be that bold. With allowance and boldness increases the chance that they will start destroying vehicles and harming the occupants inside. This should have been nipped in the bud when it started.

Sometimes you can't avoid the protest or it starts to form as you're approaching. I'm not going to get trapped in what could be a mass violent encounter.

How about a slow-rolling "nudge" to "encourage" them out of the way? :icon_neutral:
 

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The key word is "deliberately". That would seem to push it into murder status. But if it is legal by written law, it is not murder. Just wrong. I could see limiting dollar liability in an accident, but making the road a free fire zone is just wrong. But it might keep politicians out of parades.
 

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The key word is "deliberately". That would seem to push it into murder status. But if it is legal by written law, it is not murder. Just wrong. I could see limiting dollar liability in an accident, but making the road a free fire zone is just wrong. But it might keep politicians out of parades.
There are varying degrees of "deliberately", as well. On one end would be the driver who keeps his vehicle moving slowly through the human wall due to the sheer terror of being dragged from his stopped vehicle and assaulted by the mob. At the other end is the guy who raises the plow blade to chest level and drops the front differential into 4H before accelerating and bracing for impact.
 

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Does the proposed law exempt prosecution and/or civil liability for one who deliberately strikes someone standing in the roadway for whatever reason?
Nope.

The text of the bill says a driver is protected if they are "exercising due care and injures another person who is participating in a protest or demonstration and is blocking traffic in a public right of way."

It also says a "person shall not be immune from civil liability if the actions leading to the injury were willful or wanton."
 

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The two quoted parts of the bill seem to be contradictory. It is quite possible to exercise due care and diligence and still deliberately cause injury. Perhaps one can be criminally charged but not sued under the bill.
 
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