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Excellent review Euc! Question: The close up looks like the grip is fairly shiney - and possibly slippery, how secure is the grip under recoil? Gotta admit, I'm intrigued by this. Been pondering a G30 along with the Mil-Spec, could be this'll oust the Glock from consideration ... especially if they release one comparable in size to the G30 before it's time to buy.
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"...Tangle would like him too but less, because his opinion is that if you don't carry a 1911 you should carry a double stack .45 ACP. Ha!...
High tact (play on high tech, of course) minds think alike; what can I say! Clearly not going to trust his life to five or six rounds. 'Course that's just an opinion.
Great gun, great review. That's one way to deal with those problems you alluded to.
The remark about the GAP was funny; I presume that means they won't be offering the XD in the GAP any more???? They did offer an XD in a GAP for a while there didnt' they?
High tact (play on high tech, of course) minds think alike; what can I say! Clearly not going to trust his life to five or six rounds. 'Course that's just an opinion.
Great gun, great review. That's one way to deal with those problems you alluded to.
The remark about the GAP was funny; I presume that means they won't be offering the XD in the GAP any more???? They did offer an XD in a GAP for a while there didnt' they?
I know the pics are from springfield but i really doubt the wording is ..Tangle said:
Those kind of things get ya sued.
Funny for surethough, im sure they will keep on selling the Ego i mean gap for now ..
Im sure it will drop from xd line whats the point now but not from 1911 there are soem people who really like it there
Okay I took some better pictures. First here's the slide.
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It's hard to describe but if you're an XD owner who has had both, the new finish is way better and looks a little different.
I saw a rumor on HS2000talk.com that pretty soon all the new XD pistols will use this new finish, so that's good news for everybody if it's true.
Here's a better picture of the gun. It looks really slick and shiny in the other pic, and well, it really isn't slick or shiny.
As for operation, my pics don't show it very well, but there is a pattern in the front and rear of the grip with a lot of "dimples". The ones in the center of the grip are nearly nonexistant, and the ones further out are more aggressive. The sides of the grip have a texture something like skateboard tape. It's actually very comfortable without feeling like sandpaper and I have no trouble holding onto this gun even in rapid fire. My grip did not slip.
If it was really a problem some skateboard tape or a Hogue grip sleeve could remedy that. I know some XD owners use the Hogue sleeves to great personal effect. Personally the gun works great as it is for me, which is why I've never tweaked any of my XDs.
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You can tell by looking at it that the grip is subtley larger than the 9mm/40S&W/.357 SIG/.45 GAP frame, but yes that's actually 14 rounds of .45 ACP in there. (13+1)
I think Springfield Armory has successfully created a niche product here that should be very popular with anyone wanting a concealable full size big bore. At the price point, I think they're going to do well with it.
It's hard to describe but if you're an XD owner who has had both, the new finish is way better and looks a little different.
I saw a rumor on HS2000talk.com that pretty soon all the new XD pistols will use this new finish, so that's good news for everybody if it's true.
Here's a better picture of the gun. It looks really slick and shiny in the other pic, and well, it really isn't slick or shiny.
As for operation, my pics don't show it very well, but there is a pattern in the front and rear of the grip with a lot of "dimples". The ones in the center of the grip are nearly nonexistant, and the ones further out are more aggressive. The sides of the grip have a texture something like skateboard tape. It's actually very comfortable without feeling like sandpaper and I have no trouble holding onto this gun even in rapid fire. My grip did not slip.
If it was really a problem some skateboard tape or a Hogue grip sleeve could remedy that. I know some XD owners use the Hogue sleeves to great personal effect. Personally the gun works great as it is for me, which is why I've never tweaked any of my XDs.
You can tell by looking at it that the grip is subtley larger than the 9mm/40S&W/.357 SIG/.45 GAP frame, but yes that's actually 14 rounds of .45 ACP in there. (13+1)
I think Springfield Armory has successfully created a niche product here that should be very popular with anyone wanting a concealable full size big bore. At the price point, I think they're going to do well with it.
The jokes aside I don't see this gun really taking away too much from the Glock 21 except in the civilian market that doesn't want a Glock.
Glockers tend to be Glockers and shoot only Glocks and are going to shoot Glocks. Anyone that likes Glocks seems to inevitably own nothing but Glocks, or almost nothing but Glocks.
I doubt SA's prices for LE agencies can touch those of Glock's, and departments that have been issuing Glocks for 10 years aren't just going to up and switch for something like different ergomomics. Besides right now the pendulum is swinging away from 9mm and .45 ACP for patrol guns it seems.
No major police agency I know of has adopted the XD, and as far as I know only the Croatians use it as a military sidearm. It's not that the XD is bad or inferior, it's just that there are established players in these markets already who also make a good product.
As far as I know the XD is being sold largely to American civilians, and this model will be a niche product at that. Most people wanting an XD will still be getting the XD9 or XD40 I think, because while I find the gun very comfortable and don't think it feels big, it is just a wee bit larger and will likely feel still too big to most people.
It's a hair thicker than the Sig 220, and the Sig P220 is considered to be too big to carry by a lot of people, mostly the mousegun brigade.
Glockers tend to be Glockers and shoot only Glocks and are going to shoot Glocks. Anyone that likes Glocks seems to inevitably own nothing but Glocks, or almost nothing but Glocks.
I doubt SA's prices for LE agencies can touch those of Glock's, and departments that have been issuing Glocks for 10 years aren't just going to up and switch for something like different ergomomics. Besides right now the pendulum is swinging away from 9mm and .45 ACP for patrol guns it seems.
No major police agency I know of has adopted the XD, and as far as I know only the Croatians use it as a military sidearm. It's not that the XD is bad or inferior, it's just that there are established players in these markets already who also make a good product.
As far as I know the XD is being sold largely to American civilians, and this model will be a niche product at that. Most people wanting an XD will still be getting the XD9 or XD40 I think, because while I find the gun very comfortable and don't think it feels big, it is just a wee bit larger and will likely feel still too big to most people.
It's a hair thicker than the Sig 220, and the Sig P220 is considered to be too big to carry by a lot of people, mostly the mousegun brigade.
Haha! Really makes you foam at the mouth don't it?
But look at the bright side, by the time you get into one, spare mags will be around, aftermarket support will be established, etc. I couldn't carry it right now if I wanted to because the mounting hardware on my holster broke... holster parts I need won't be here for weeks, afraid to lose one of my only two magazines.
Plus, the early buyers of any gun in today's market are guinea pigs much of the time. I normally prefer not to pay $$$ to test a product, but I couldn't help myself.
But look at the bright side, by the time you get into one, spare mags will be around, aftermarket support will be established, etc. I couldn't carry it right now if I wanted to because the mounting hardware on my holster broke... holster parts I need won't be here for weeks, afraid to lose one of my only two magazines.
Plus, the early buyers of any gun in today's market are guinea pigs much of the time. I normally prefer not to pay $$$ to test a product, but I couldn't help myself.
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