Gee, with Californian Democrats, who needs enemies! :chairshot
California Ammo Ban
The next stop for SB 357, the bill to require serial numbers on all handgun cartridges -- including rimfire ammo -- is the Assembly's Public Safety Committee Tuesday, June 21. The Sporting Arms and Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI), Web site has information Californians can use in writing letters or making phone calls to their legislators requesting a vote against this bill. If passed, it will create a de facto ban on ammunition in the state by requirements to individually mark bullets that no manufacturer can cost-effectively meet, raising the price of ammo from pennies to dollars a round.
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Oh these bans will only be for the little people of California, Law Enforcement and the movie people won't have to pay attention to this stuff. The Mexicans, BG's from south of the border and gangs won't have to worry about this and perhaps even the politicians and their family members will have a special out on this requirement. How will we get serial numbers on pellets of shotgun ammo, oh better write them today in case they forgot this point. :smile:
Hopefully Ahnold would veto this one, but he didn't veto their .50 cal law.
Gee Prospector
With Cawl~Lee~Forn~EE~AH REPUBLICANS...who need enemies?
Where is AhhhNold The Wimp TERMINATOR?
The CLOSET KENNEDY in pumped up sheeps clothing?
With Cawl~Lee~Forn~EE~AH REPUBLICANS...who need enemies?
Where is AhhhNold The Wimp TERMINATOR?
The CLOSET KENNEDY in pumped up sheeps clothing?
This is another good reason to handload. In fact, casting your own bullets might be better.
At the sporting goods store where I set up, one of the shotgun guys told me we are down to just a few boxes (of 1,000 each) 209 shotgun primers--and he doesn't know when a replcement shipment is scheduled. Our neighboring store in the chain are now doing inventory and cannot transfer products.
Back when my friends and I were 'paranoid' we stocked up. I haven't bought components in five years. I'm down to a few thousand .22LR's, but in my neck of the woods there's plenty.
Wisconsin is a strange state. By the square mile, we are predominently conservative hunters, fishermen and bikers. The capitol of Madison is run by liberals who think the Vietnam War is still going on.
What troubles me about silly liberal end-runs on firearms in California is that it might spur the liberals to try it in my state. We have already had two attempts by the university folks to define and enforce hate speech. Both attempts were shot down, for now.
I believe that they wil try anything. For example, we are not as yet restricted on how much 'metal slag' can be set out for public garbage pick-up. I heard rumors of 20 pounds per year coming up as an 'environmental issue.' Strangely, an 'environmental issue' also came up about target ranges and ground water.
I immediately smelted most of my lino into 'pure' ignot bars. No slag is then produced during casting. This won't do much good if ranges are closed.
We already have strict air quality codes for indoor ranges.
At the sporting goods store where I set up, one of the shotgun guys told me we are down to just a few boxes (of 1,000 each) 209 shotgun primers--and he doesn't know when a replcement shipment is scheduled. Our neighboring store in the chain are now doing inventory and cannot transfer products.
Back when my friends and I were 'paranoid' we stocked up. I haven't bought components in five years. I'm down to a few thousand .22LR's, but in my neck of the woods there's plenty.
Wisconsin is a strange state. By the square mile, we are predominently conservative hunters, fishermen and bikers. The capitol of Madison is run by liberals who think the Vietnam War is still going on.
What troubles me about silly liberal end-runs on firearms in California is that it might spur the liberals to try it in my state. We have already had two attempts by the university folks to define and enforce hate speech. Both attempts were shot down, for now.
I believe that they wil try anything. For example, we are not as yet restricted on how much 'metal slag' can be set out for public garbage pick-up. I heard rumors of 20 pounds per year coming up as an 'environmental issue.' Strangely, an 'environmental issue' also came up about target ranges and ground water.
I immediately smelted most of my lino into 'pure' ignot bars. No slag is then produced during casting. This won't do much good if ranges are closed.
We already have strict air quality codes for indoor ranges.
I did hear this ammo marking bill does NOT exempt LEO. Wouldn't matter, if the ammo companies actually stood up and refused to sell to Cali. Hear us, Reminton, Winchester, Federal, CCI, etc??
It sure would! I think the only way to put numbers on fairly quickly would be to laser them on.Bumper said:If passed, it will create a de facto ban on ammunition in the state by requirements to individually mark bullets that no manufacturer can cost-effectively meet, raising the price of ammo from pennies to dollars a round.
When New York (?) and Maryland put the internal lock law into effect most handgun companies just stopped shipping into the two states, including Berretta..... Which has their factory in Maryland!
They have that covered. After a certain date(2007, IIRC) possesion of non serialized ammo is a felony. So, even if you handload, the cartridges must be marked.This is another good reason to handload. In fact, casting your own bullets might be better.
Does the bill have traction? Do you think it will get out committee for a vote?
With Arnold's past performance, would he veto it?
With Arnold's past performance, would he veto it?
They should move their factory....rstickle said:When New York (?) and Maryland put the internal lock law into effect most handgun companies just stopped shipping into the two states, including Berretta..... Which has their factory in Maryland!
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