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I'm heading to WI next month and passing through the land of Lincoln, Illinois. I've learned that WI allows OC to residents and non-residents w/o a permit so my gun is welcomed in that state as long as I OC. Correct? I also know I have to seperate the gun and ammo, both can be together though, when transporting. What's Illinois like? I know you can't CC in Illinois and guns are banned in Chicago, but what about other areas of Illinois? I'm guessing OC is prohibited and my gun in not welcome? Correct? If I'm right then I'll probably have to follow the Federal Transportation Laws when going through Illinois? Thanks.
 

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I live in Illinois and you can carry openly only if you want to be arrested and no longer have a clean criminial record. Now according to the Highway patrol website you can carry your weapon inside a locked case unloaded and you can carry the rounds with the gun. I would however not let the officer know you have a weapon in your vechicle or at least put it in your luggage.
 

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I lived in the suburbs of Chicago from 2003-2008.
Because of a job.
I got out of there as soon as I could,
I hated it there !!!
The gun laws are BAD there. Mayor Daley practically runs the whole state of corruption.
Get caught with a gun in certain cities and kiss your 4th point of contact bye bye.
Wisconsin is not any better.
Handguns must be unloaded in a case, with ammo in a separate place.
If you live there, then you have to have a "firearms owners identification card".
Just to be allowed to own,handle,shoot,buy ammo,touch ammo or gun in a store, and certain cities like Chicago don't let you have one in your own house. In Wisconsin you are not allowed to have a loaded gun in a car that has the engine running.
Concealed weapons permits don't exist in Illinois unless your a cop.
Avoid the state if you can.
It is the most corrupt state I have ever been in.
They rip you off on everything there, taxes, property tax, licenses, toll ways.
I will never ever go back to that state.
 

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Concealed weapons permits don't exist in Illinois unless your a cop.
...OR a member of the Chicago City Council.

For people who don't understand what that means, imagine NYC having a law that you can't carry concealed unless you're a cop or a "made" member of the Gambino crime "family".

For an interesting statistical exercise, look up and compare the percentage of Ohio CHL holders who have gone to prison versus the percentage of Chicago City Council members.

It's the equivalent of John Gotti being a reserve policeman.
 

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When driving from Oklahoma to Pennsylvania on vacation I will often drive a lot of extra miles just to avoid driving through Illinois because of their gun laws.

If I do drive through Illinois I don't stop for food, gas or lodging in that state. I don't even stop for a rest room break if I can avoid it!
 

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Here's a link to WI statutes and case laws:
Wisconsin State Statutes and Caselaw - Wisconsin - Stories From The States - OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum

You can read other posts on the WI page at OpenCarry.org and find lots of information.

Here's the main things you need to know:

Cannot carry within 1000' of a school zone.
Cannot carry in a vehicle. Weapon must be unloaded and encased and placed out of reach in the vehicle.
Cannot carry in a government building.
Cannot carry in state parks or fish hatcheries.
Cannot carry a handgun in any place that serves alcohol for consumption (including restaurants that serve).

When getting out of a vehicle and holstering up, make sure you take your case completely out of the vehicle, and don't set it on top of the vehicle. Then go ahead and pull it out and holster/load up.

Expect to get looks, maybe some questions. If asked to leave a store by a manager or employee, go ahead and leave. Rarely police may be called to respond to a "man with a gun" call. But lots of people in WI carry daily and never have any problems.

Here's a link to a pamphlet you can carry with you. Might help if you have to explain anything to people.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=9138
 

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Ugh, I have family in Illinois (Dad) and Wisonsin (Cousin) that I would like to visit more but can't carry in IL and Wisconsin sounds like a huge hassle.
 

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Ugh, I have family in Illinois (Dad) and Wisonsin (Cousin) that I would like to visit more but can't carry in IL and Wisconsin sounds like a huge hassle.
Until about 6 months ago I had a sister in Illinois, an some long-ime childhood friends. The mother-in-law is still kicking too.

But possession in Illinois of a firearm OR just ammunition is restricted. Illinois residents MUST have an FOID to buy, possess either or both arms and ammunition. There are some exceptions for hunters and competitive shooters. There is also an exception for a person licensed by a state [it may be that it must be their state of residence] to possess a loaded firearm in their dwelling.
But Illinois requires everybody to transport firearms unloaded and cased.
The criminals carry and kill on a daily schedule, I'm sure they look for NRA or other bumper stickers when picking a car to smash and grab. Have some sort of bolted in steel box, not because the law requires it, but because you want your gun to still be in the vehicle when you come back from lunch.

This is bolted with a 3/8" J bolt to the seat mount. It will stop a guy with a brick, a determined thief will take the car.:frown:
 

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I lived in the suburbs of Chicago from 2003-2008.
Because of a job.
I got out of there as soon as I could,
I hated it there !!!
The gun laws are BAD there. Mayor Daley practically runs the whole state of corruption.
Get caught with a gun in certain cities and kiss your 4th point of contact bye bye.
Wisconsin is not any better.
Handguns must be unloaded in a case, with ammo in a separate place.
If you live there, then you have to have a "firearms owners identification card".
Just to be allowed to own,handle,shoot,buy ammo,touch ammo or gun in a store, and certain cities like Chicago don't let you have one in your own house. In Wisconsin you are not allowed to have a loaded gun in a car that has the engine running.
Concealed weapons permits don't exist in Illinois unless your a cop.
Avoid the state if you can.
It is the most corrupt state I have ever been in.
They rip you off on everything there, taxes, property tax, licenses, toll ways.
I will never ever go back to that state.
I see this on here quite often. You DO NOT have to have the gun and ammo seperate. If traveling, the gun has to be in some kind of closed case, unloaded, but the ammo can be in the same case. As a matter of fact, the mag can be loaded.... I hate Illinois and unfortunatley have to go there often...
 

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Im allways sure to put on my depends,like the lady from NASA did, soI wont have to stop while im passing through that commy state...Id rather Chit myself than deal with all their stupid gun laws while passing through,on my way out west to Utah.
 

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Apparntly it is not to hard to CC in IL. Get into politics or join a gang.
 

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I'm heading to WI next month and passing through the land of Lincoln, Illinois. I've learned that WI allows OC to residents and non-residents w/o a permit so my gun is welcomed in that state as long as I OC. Correct? I also know I have to seperate the gun and ammo, both can be together though, when transporting. What's Illinois like? I know you can't CC in Illinois and guns are banned in Chicago, but what about other areas of Illinois? I'm guessing OC is prohibited and my gun in not welcome? Correct? If I'm right then I'll probably have to follow the Federal Transportation Laws when going through Illinois? Thanks.
WI has OC but no CC and as pointed out there are restrictions on where you can OC.

IL has no OC or CC. Handguns are banned in Chicago. For residents, rifles and shotguns are not banned as long as they are registered and not an "assault weapon" as defined by the Cook County AWB which Chicago adheres to. The whole registration process of a shotgun or rifle is tricky even for residents. Example.

Transportation laws in IL are not as bad as some think, now. No, you cannot CC or OC the firearm(loaded or not) in a vehicle. It must be unloaded and enclosed in a case(if the case has zippers or latches they must be fully zipped or latched) but does not have to be out of reach. About a month ago the People v. Diggins case confirmed that the center console & glove box are perfectly acceptable places for your unloaded firearm to be transported. If the latch on your center console or glove box is busted, DO NOT use it to transport your firearm. Ammunition transportation is NOT regulated(if you are an IL resident you must have a FOID card, but non residents do not, makes sense right?). You can have a loaded magazine taped to your forehead and it is perfectly legal. You may also keep said loaded magazine in the glove box or center console along with your unloaded firearm, but the loaded magazine CANNOT be in the gun. I know some states consider a shotgun with rounds in the tube but no round in the chamber to be unloaded, but here in IL a handgun with a loaded magazine in it but no round in the chamber is considered a loaded firearm and will land you in a world of hurt.

IL residents(outside Chicago) may legally CC or OC on their own property.

House Bill 182, which was signed into law a couple months ago and is now a public act, allows people in IL to CC or OC on property where you are a guest and have been given permission to do so by the landowner\resident. Permission does not have to be given prior to an incident happening as well. Say, for example, you are house sitting for someone. You decide to bring your firearm along and you CC or OC on their property while they are gone without asking first. Someone attempts a home invasion and you shoot them. Once the police speak to your friend the home owner all he has to say is that you are allowed to carry in their house and then you are fine and should not be hassled. I personally would recommend getting permission ahead of time.

Good Luck!
 

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I lived in the suburbs of Chicago from 2003-2008.
Because of a job.
I got out of there as soon as I could,
I hated it there !!!
The gun laws are BAD there. Mayor Daley practically runs the whole state of corruption.
Get caught with a gun in certain cities and kiss your 4th point of contact bye bye.
Wisconsin is not any better.
Handguns must be unloaded in a case, with ammo in a separate place.
If you live there, then you have to have a "firearms owners identification card".
Just to be allowed to own,handle,shoot,buy ammo,touch ammo or gun in a store, and certain cities like Chicago don't let you have one in your own house. In Wisconsin you are not allowed to have a loaded gun in a car that has the engine running.
Concealed weapons permits don't exist in Illinois unless your a cop.
Avoid the state if you can.
It is the most corrupt state I have ever been in.
They rip you off on everything there, taxes, property tax, licenses, toll ways.
I will never ever go back to that state.
You summed up IL very well. When I have to go through IL on my yearly CO to FL trips I go through the southern most tip. I don't remember the exact distance I spend on IL soil....... but it's something less than one mile as I remember. In my opinion all the bad laws are generated out of Chicago. I feel for my IL gunnie friends......:wave:
 

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My wife is from Illinois and she wants to move back there. I'm fighting it with everything I've got cuz I REALLY don't want to live there. Luckily we compromised to move a little closer to the family she has here in Utah so that'll put off the move for at least a year or so.
 

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I lived in the suburbs of Chicago from 2003-2008.
Because of a job.
I got out of there as soon as I could,
I hated it there !!!
The gun laws are BAD there. Mayor Daley practically runs the whole state of corruption.
Get caught with a gun in certain cities and kiss your 4th point of contact bye bye.
Wisconsin is not any better.
Handguns must be unloaded in a case, with ammo in a separate place.
If you live there, then you have to have a "firearms owners identification card".
Just to be allowed to own,handle,shoot,buy ammo,touch ammo or gun in a store, and certain cities like Chicago don't let you have one in your own house. In Wisconsin you are not allowed to have a loaded gun in a car that has the engine running.
Concealed weapons permits don't exist in Illinois unless your a cop.
Avoid the state if you can.
It is the most corrupt state I have ever been in.
They rip you off on everything there, taxes, property tax, licenses, toll ways.
I will never ever go back to that state.
AGREE. I'm from Calumet City, IL and now am happily retired in Midland, GA. Unfortunately, my in-laws are still there...we don't often visit. I'd avoid Illinois. I could go on but I'd be writing for hours!!!
 

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My wife has family in Springfield, IL and we plan to travel there for a visit the end of this year from where she now lives with me in West Virginia.

I believe now they have relaxed the law in IL to allow a firearm to be loaded and carried inside of a vehicle but it has to be in the glove box or something of that nature. Maybe check out handgunlaw.us and see if they have any information.

Never, ever carry concealed or openly in Illinois, you'd have a better chance in Russia for getting away with it.
 

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My wife has family in Springfield, IL and we plan to travel there for a visit the end of this year from where she now lives with me in West Virginia.

I believe now they have relaxed the law in IL to allow a firearm to be loaded and carried inside of a vehicle but it has to be in the glove box or something of that nature. Maybe check out handgunlaw.us and see if they have any information.

Never, ever carry concealed or openly in Illinois, you'd have a better chance in Russia for getting away with it.
Illinois State Rifle Association

THE DIGGINS DECISION HAS BEEN INCORRECTLY INTERPRETED BY MANY,
OPENING THE DOOR TO ARREST AND PROSECUTION
from ISRA Attorney Victor Quilici

Since People v. Diggins was decided by our State Supreme Court, a number of articles, commentaries and general blogging have circulated stating that guns can be easily and safely transported in motor vehicles in just about every manner possible, loaded, unloaded, and in some cases in fanny packs worn by drivers and/or passengers. Nothing can be further from the truth than those type of analysis.

To begin with, Diggins focuses on the language in the UUW statute that relates to “aggravated unlawful use of a weapon.” The State Supreme Court addressed the exemption provisions of Section 24-1.6 (c)(iii) which provides that a person is not guilty of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon if that weapon is “unloaded and encased in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a valid Firearm Owner’s Identification card.” The Court begins by noting:
“[W]e are asked to determine whether the center console of a vehicle is a ‘case’ within the meaning of this provision. For the reasons that follow, we conclude that it is.”

One of the first points the Supreme Court states was that a prior decision by the 4th District Court of Appeals was flawed when it held that a glove compartment was not a “case” within the meaning of the exemption language because a glove compartment is not portable.

Even though the Supreme Court made that observation, that does not mean that it ruled expressly that glove compartments are cases. While part of its analysis, it was not part of the Court’s decision. That determination must come in another decision, when the issue is squarely before the Court. Also, that observation may be quoted in future cases.

What is important in Diggins, is that the Supreme Court holds that a case does not have to be a container specific to a firearm and it need not be limited to something portable. The Court’s language is understandable to non-attorneys when it says:
“Unpersuaded by the State’s arguments, we conclude that the legislature used the broad general term ‘case’ unmodified. Giving the word ‘case’ its plain and ordinary meaning, as we must, permits but one conclusion: the term ‘case’ in Section 24-1.6 (c)(iii) includes any portable or non-portable receptacle and need not be interpreted only in reference to firearms.
. . . Based on the foregoing, we find, in the case at bar that a center console of a vehicle falls within the ordinary definition of case.
. . . Whether the statute is wise or the best means to achieve the desired result are matters left to the legislature, not the court.”

Special Note from the ISRA Webmaster: This analysis is not to be construed as legal advice. Please consult with your own attorney for such advice.

Posted Sun Nov 15 18:53:16 CST 2009
 

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I believe now they have relaxed the law in IL to allow a firearm to be loaded and carried inside of a vehicle but it has to be in the glove box or something of that nature.
No. Unloaded, in the glove box or Center Console. Loaded mags may be in the same container but not in the gun. Center Console or Glove box must have a working latch to keep it closed. If the latch is broken it is considered open and you will be breaking the law.
 
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