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If you eaver considered using a car door for cover i suggest you trot over to tfl http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213488 and take a gander
Much more metal? You're kidding right? While I have never shot a car before Jeeps are my hobby and I can tell you that there isn't that much more metal in a wheel well. Heck, depending on the car in a wheel well there might be more plastic then metal then in a door.Ben Hennessy said:How about a wheel well as cover. Much more metal there and stopping power.
BushidoMarine said:I used to work for a company that made the stamping dies used in making car body parts such as the inner and outer door panels, trunk & hood panels, roof, etc. The typical thickness of the steel used for these parts is between 0.6 ~ 0.85 millimeters. Car doors(and a car body in general) is basically VERY thin metal enclosing mostly empty space!!! Only in very few areas, such as near the 'A'/'B' pillars, does the door metal thickness exceed 1mm...typically 1.2~1.5 to support the weight where the hinges connect the car frame and the door together.
Also, the doors on your typical car are only made of two layers of metal; the outer skin panel, and the inner panel that the skin panel is clamped/folded onto. The interior panels are just vinyl covered plastic or particle board...not the best bullet stoppers. To save weight, the inner panel has LOTS OF HOLES punched into it, often exceeding 100-130 holes. The end result is the bare minimum of metal needed to keep the door's desired shape, rigidity, and weight supporting characteristics; the rest is methodically removed as the thin sheet metal is transformed into door shaped thin sheet metal.
Long story short...car doors are concealement, NOT cover!!
I wouldn't trust a typical car door to even stop a .22... :ahhhhh:
Excellent point!P95Carry said:I always rated a car door as little more than concealment.
Yeah, I just watched Mr & Mrs Smith and it's entertaining to see how all of the bullets only dented the fridge doors. That must be a hell of a fridge :wink:mark555 said:I tend to error on the side of caution; most everything is concealment not cover. The TV shows that have people taking cover behind refrigerator doors and interior walls and the same stopping the bullet crack me up,
From my wheeling experience the aluminum wheel is gonna go desintegrate in a puff of smoke.rocky said:I wonder how alum. wheels stop bullets, compared to steel wheels?
That's why you look for a vehicle with a big engine, not a lawnmower engine powered civic :smile:Engine blocks should be o.k., but remember there is some sheetmetal above where the engine sits making up the hood and fenders.
Yep, and the newer the car/truck the thinner the metal/ or plastic .frankmako said:works well on tv, not in the real world. most parts/areas of new cars are only good for concealment.