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Hello all, I'm a new member here. Currently awaiting my cpl to come back from state.
I have a question on a situation, because I am moving to an area I am less familar with and does have a much larger population and its a metropolitan area.
For instance, I'm out in the neighborhood walking my dog. Its hard, kinds of late, someone walks up asking for a couple dollars. "sorry man I dont have any" he replied "oh yeah lets see about that" puts his hand in his pocket. At this point im going for my gun, I draw and he decides to rush me. Though in this short instance I cannot see any weapon, I have one. And if he gets it from me, I may be a dead man.
Question, shoot upon him rushing me, or dont shoot. I dont want to feel the need to hesitate in a situation because Im worried about justifying my shot more than worrying about my own well being.
On a side note, I hope I never have to use my gun and never plan to. I just want to plan to react accordingly if the need for it shows.

thanks all for any input.
 

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from Central Florida!

You need to take a SD pistol course where all your questions and concerns can be discussed. Situational awareness can help keep panhandlers at a distance.:wave:

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He's made a threat, made actions as if going for a weapon, and is attempting to carry it out. If it were me I'd shoot. If he is armed I don't see where there will be a problem. If it turns out he was not armed, then you will need to do your best to convince the DA and probably a jury that his actions were sufficient to justify lethal force. As has been said here many times before. When the police show up, keep your mouth shut until you have a lawyer present.

BTW, welcome to the forum.
 

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First welcome to the board.

Second look into getting some training, best investment you'll make if you choose to carry. We all need it, their are some real good CC classes out there.

Never want a stranger to get too close, distance is your friend. Loud voice command to stay back as you back peddle away. That being said...

You have a dog,you pull your pistol and he still rushes you. He makes a verbal threat and reaches for what you think is a weapon. You are now in a situation of fearing for you life. Pulling the trigger until the threat has stopped would be my response, hope you have a good lawyer.
 

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When your only tool is a hammer......
 

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from Central Florida!

You need to take a SD pistol course where all your questions and concerns can be discussed. Situational awareness can help keep panhandlers at a distance.:wave:

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+1. Sound advice right there
 

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I will pull my weapon and hopefully that will stop him, but if he charges me with my weapon drawn, then I can only see him as a threat and fire. Say nothing and get a lawyer.
 

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Going for your weapon is akin to pulling a weapon of his own. You're in fear of your life, and it's reasonable that, should he get your weapon, he will end yours. I'd pull the trigger.
 

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Welcome....

If you are in fear for your life because of the actions of the BG...i.e. an overt threat, coming at you....you can defend yourself.

I would read on the MI laws regarding self defense and take some defensive pistol courses...
 

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Never want a stranger to get too close, distance is your friend. Loud voice command to stay back as you back peddle away. That being said...
This and what Bullseye implied. Move away move away. If you can retreat, do so. Cross the street (watching them), whatever it takes.

I also support more training and reading all the recent lawyer-oriented threads.
 

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well thank you all for the quick responses.
I am looking into some good SD pistol classes. Unfortunately my CCW coarse was more or less pushing alot of NRA propaganda. Not a bad thing, but I do feel like they could have spent much more time with more useful information. The only part of the class that was any sort of learning was when a couple LEO's gave a couple speeches.
 

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I really don't know how to answer the situation you were in because:
#1 You do not have a CC permit yet
#2 You carry a weapon

I was prevented from carrying a weapon before I got my permit. Meanwile during all those times i spent waiting for my permit to come, I do things that I need to do during the daylight hours. Or have my husband drive me to places I need to go because he got his permit first even though he did not carry at the time, I have my gun in the console of the car. I was reprimanded for doing that so i did not go out until I got my permit. In the meantime, I practice and practice and practice.
 

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There is an advantage to having options at hand. When you're walking your dog, have a small cannister of pepper spray readily accessible. Your pistol can remain in its holster. Panhandler approaches, pull your pepper spray out so it's immediately usable but not displayed. Panhandler gets too close, give him a taste. If he attacks you with a weapon or you are in true fear for your life, you will likely have a second or two to unholster your gun and fire to stop the threat.

If the panhandler did not have a weapon, using non-lethal force (pepper spray) just saved you a huge amount of legal hassles. Had there been a weapon, the spray would have slowed him down, possibly deterred the threat, or simply bought you some precious seconds to draw your gun.
 

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There is an advantage to having options at hand. When you're walking your dog, have a small cannister of pepper spray readily accessible. Your pistol can remain in its holster. Panhandler approaches, pull your pepper spray out so it's immediately usable but not displayed. Panhandler gets too close, give him a taste. If he attacks you with a weapon or you are in true fear for your life, you will likely have a second or two to unholster your gun and fire to stop the threat.

If the panhandler did not have a weapon, using non-lethal force (pepper spray) just saved you a huge amount of legal hassles. Had there been a weapon, the spray would have slowed him down, possibly deterred the threat, or simply bought you some precious seconds to draw your gun.
How about when the panhandler approaches I pull out my GUN so it's immediately useable but not displayed? If he attacks with a weapon or I'm in true fear for my life then I'm able to shoot before he can hopefully not get close enough to cause me harm or death. If he has no weapon and I believe him to not be a seriuos threat, then the gun can return to it's holster.

I refuse to get behind the "curve".
 

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I really don't know how to answer the situation you were in because:
#1 You do not have a CC permit yet
#2 You carry a weapon

I was prevented from carrying a weapon before I got my permit. Meanwile during all those times i spent waiting for my permit to come, I do things that I need to do during the daylight hours. Or have my husband drive me to places I need to go because he got his permit first even though he did not carry at the time, I have my gun in the console of the car. I was reprimanded for doing that so i did not go out until I got my permit. In the meantime, I practice and practice and practice.
This was a hypothetical situation, not an actual event.
 

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from Central Florida!

You need to take a SD pistol course where all your questions and concerns can be discussed. Situational awareness can help keep panhandlers at a distance.:wave:

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What he said! (retsup is always right on). Get trained.

When you get your gun, license & gear, it doesn't end there; it's just the beginning.

Since I got my EDC & license & began carrying 3 years ago, I have shelled out 3 times more for training than what I paid for my gun (& my gun wasn't exactly cheap).
 
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