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Not sure how far this will go but it's worth a try I guess.

Today, Representative Doug Collins (R-GA) introduced legislation to eliminate the "sporting purpose" distinction contained in the Internal Revenue Code and the Federal Criminal Code. H.R. 2277 restores Second Amendment protections to all firearms.
Rep. Collins Introduces Bill To Eliminate Unconstitutional 'Sporting Purpose' Distinction In Gun Laws | dawsontimes.com

Text of the bill: Proposed Federal Gun Legislation HB2277 - American Gun Owners Alliance
 

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I'm itching for SAF/GOA/JPFO/NRA to jointly pull out the big guns, suing the government over the simple meaning of "shall not be infringed." Risky endeavor, but IMO everything short of that's merely flicking a feather at the problem.
 

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There seems to be some controversy as to whether this a a good bill or bad. One friend of mine that studies law (but isn't a lawyer) said this:

The only power they are taking away from the AG is the power to help us. All the strikes to US CODE TITLE 18 make it more restrictive, not less, by taking away the ability of the owner or the AG to claim non-applicability of a restrictive designation by saying the item will be used only for sporting purposes.
And after re-reading the bill I'm not quite sure who's right.
 

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Good for him!!! If this passes and becomes law it could have big positive ramifications concerning the 2A.
With the Dems in charge of the Senate, there is zero chance this will get anywhere. So it is just another political stunt. The problem is that lately all that has been going on in Congress is political stunts and no real work.
 

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I'm itching for SAF/GOA/JPFO/NRA to jointly pull out the big guns, suing the government over the simple meaning of "shall not be infringed." Risky endeavor, but IMO everything short of that's merely flicking a feather at the problem.
Unfortunately, that will likely never happen. Let's not forget, these organizations make a whole lot of money and enjoy some heavy political clout fighting for us.

IMHO; they don't want the war to be over. They just want to win the "battles" so the money will keep coming in; while the war rages on.

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We need more legislators trying to snuff out bogus laws. Bravo Mr. Collins. Even if it won't succeed.
 

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Unfortunately, that will likely never happen. Let's not forget, these organizations make a whole lot of money and enjoy some heavy political clout fighting for us.

IMHO; they don't want the war to be over. They just want to win the "battles" so the money will keep coming in; while the war rages on.

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Point taken.

Well, it seems to me that each of these groups could become powerhouses of the BOR corrections that need to be done. It's not as though the ACLU has a stellar record on many aspects of such infringements, in this regard. I'd bet there is a lot of room out there, even if everything related to the 2A were to magically be resolved anytime soon. Imagine how much horsepower they could all bring to bear on the infringements in the 1A, 2A, 4A, 5A. If they were to open up the gates a bit, on what they handled, I think there's plenty of work sufficient to keep them all rolling for quite some time.
 

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Unfortunately, that will likely never happen. Let's not forget, these organizations make a whole lot of money and enjoy some heavy political clout fighting for us.

IMHO; they don't want the war to be over. They just want to win the "battles" so the money will keep coming in; while the war rages on.

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So, what you're saying is it's all politics as usual... and politics is money... and the banks fund each side, and both sides pay the interest (in $$ or favors)... Sounds right to me.

Point take.

Well, it seems to me that each of these groups could become powerhouses of the BOR corrections that need to be done. It's not as though the ACLU has a stellar record on many aspects of such infringements, in this regard. I'd bet there is a lot of room out there, even if everything related to the 2A were to magically be resolved anytime soon. Imagine how much horsepower they could all bring to bear on the infringements in the 1A, 2A, 4A, 5A. If they were to open up the gates a bit, on what they handled, I think there's plenty of work sufficient to keep them all rolling for quite some time.
NRA tried that, to a degree... spreading out into social conservatism outside of gun rights (IIRC, but I could be grossly mistaken)...

I think the gun groups oughta stay gun groups... After all, we (gun owners) tend to say, "The 2nd defends all the others..."
 
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