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Does anyone on here carry a colt defender in either 45 or 9mm? I am very curious how you like it, how its holding up to daily carry, concealability, accuarcy, weight etc. I do like my SR40c and can carry either the 9rnd or 15rnd mag, but I traded in my 38 snub nose, and my wife carries my Bersa Thunder 380 (even ordered pink grips for it to make it "hers" now but she's shooting and carrying it so I sure as hell wont complain there), so I dont have another carry gun that I can interchange.
 

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I had both and carried both. I love the look and feel of the Defender but neither the 9mm and .45 acp were 100% reliable. The .45 was much better than the 9mm and benefited from a good ramp polishing although they tell you not to remove the protective coating. However, the bullets hitting the feed ramp removed the protective coating anyway. I also owned the New Agent in 9mm but eventually did not like the trench sight system Good for close up work but not so good for distance. My experience with 3" barrel 1911 guns is that a 1911 is best the way it was originally designed. These guns were ammo fussy and not 100% reliable. I really do not care why they jammed and whose fault it was as some do because a jam is a jam and it can mean your life and I do not want it written on my tombstone that here lies Old Dog whose gun did not go bang when it should have but it was not the gun's fault.

In the end, they were heavy to carry every day and not 100% reliable so I traded them in for small and easier to carry guns. I currently carry a Sig P938 9mm and XDs .45 acp. So I still have my two favorite calibers in very lightweight guns that can be pocket or belt carried. With the extended mags I have the same ammo capacity as the Defender. Now I normally slip one in my pocket holster and go about my day often forgetting about the gun in my pocket. I also wear them on my belt when I will be sitting down a lot and they are nice and thin and over 10 ounces lighter.
 

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I had both and carried both. I love the look and feel of the Defender but neither the 9mm and .45 acp were 100% reliable. The .45 was much better than the 9mm and benefited from a good ramp polishing although they tell you not to remove the protective coating. However, the bullets hitting the feed ramp removed the protective coating anyway. I also owned the New Agent in 9mm but eventually did not like the trench sight system Good for close up work but not so good for distance. My experience with 3" barrel 1911 guns is that a 1911 is best the way it was originally designed. These guns were ammo fussy and not 100% reliable. I really do not care why they jammed and whose fault it was as some do because a jam is a jam and it can mean your life and I do not want it written on my tombstone that here lies Old Dog whose gun did not go bang when it should have but it was not the gun's fault.

In the end, they were heavy to carry every day and not 100% reliable so I traded them in for small and easier to carry guns. I currently carry a Sig P938 9mm and XDs .45 acp. So I still have my two favorite calibers in very lightweight guns that can be pocket or belt carried. With the extended mags I have the same ammo capacity as the Defender. Now I normally slip one in my pocket holster and go about my day often forgetting about the gun in my pocket. I also wear them on my belt when I will be sitting down a lot and they are nice and thin and over 10 ounces lighter.
Typo maybe? There is only 1oz. difference between the XDs (21.5 oz). and the New Agent (22.5 oz). And 5.5 oz difference between the Colt and the 938, without it's magazine.

Colt New Agent® Series
Specs for the XD-S 45mm Compact Pistol | Springfield Armory USA
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-blackwood.aspx
 

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My girlfriend has one in 45 and it is a nice. It is compareable in size to my SR9c but hasn't been as reliable so far! Nice gun though, it may just need more breaking in?
 

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I carry a .45 Defender all day every day.
Have it on now as a matter of fact.
Love it.
 

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A good friend 'had' a Defender. It wasn't reliable with any ammo.

The most important requirement for a defensive gun is that it goes 'bang' every time you want it to, no exceptions. Period.

He sold it.

I have a SIG C3 (4.3" barrel, Officer's Model Grip length), it's been 100% reliable with any ammo I've tried. The Commander barrel length seems to be way less fussy about ammo. The officer's grip is easier to conceal. The alloy frame reduces the weight about 10 oz compared to a full size steel framed 1911.

All things considered, IMO the best carry configuration for a 1911 is the Commander length barrel (4" to 4.3") with the Officer's length grip.

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Defender experience

I've had a Colt Defender for about 6 years and carry it some of the time. I like the gun and it has been perfectly reliable. It is accurate and has a good trigger. The gun is thin and easy to conceal.

 

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I do not own a colt defender, but I have had good experiences with the Kimber 3" 1911's in both .45 and 9mm. Both 100% reliable.
 

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I have one in .45 and have carried it now for about 3 years. No problems at all with it. Never missed a beat. And I bought one for my Son two years ago and he carries it as his off duty and he also has never had one FTE or FTF with his either.

We both bet our lives on one. And have carried one for years. And we both recommend this gun in .45

The secrete to any 1911 is the extractor. Good quality (which Colt puts in one) and good adjustment. Then they run and run.

Good quality carry gun. They are not cheap these days.
 

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think I'm going to lean towards an SP101 in 357 instead, read a few to many bad things about the colt that I really wasn't expecting from a fairly expensive gun.
 

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I've been carrying a New Agent off and on for a couple of years--same size as the Defender, just a little lighter.

I like it a lot. Very reliable.
 

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I am thinking about buying the Defender, hopefully my restrictions will be lifted soon. I have a Kimber Super Carry Custom but having never carried before I am wondering if I will have trouble concealing the full size .45. Comments are always appreciated,

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I do not own a colt defender, but I have had good experiences with the Kimber 3" 1911's in both .45 and 9mm. Both 100% reliable.
I agree with bgusty. My Kimber 3" is my primary carry - totally reliable. A friend has a 3" Springfield (V-10???) and it is a little heavier, but it appears to be every bit as reliable as my Kimber. Both guns are .45's.
 

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Had one. It didn't like thin lipped hollowpoints but worked fine with ball and Hornady Critical Duty. I replaced the grips with some CZ's because they stuck to my shirt. Novak installed some night sights and rounded off the holster-eating slide edges then bead blasted it. I also replaced the wobbly trigger and added an arched mainspring housing so the grip angle would be similar to my Glock. Loved the gun but it was heavy and the M&P 45c could do everything it could do but better. Good gun but I don't regret my trade in for a second.

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My experience with the Defender has been very poor. Brass kept hitting me in the forehead to where it actually was drawing blood. On one occasion the RSO asked to me leave the line due to blood trailing down my forehead. It also destroyed a good set of shooting classes from brass strikes. I finally sent the gun back to Colt, complete with pictures of my cut up forehead. When the gun was finally returned, it would not fire at all. Literally, I took it to the range and instead of going bang it would only go click. How Colt could send me back a now non-functioning firearm is beyond my understanding. This certainly created a lot of discussion at the range and LGS. So no, I do not recommend this firearm. (There is more to the story, but it only gets worse.)
 

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I find it a little humorous that Old Dog replaced the Defender with a P938 and an Xds....both firearms that have had their share of complaints as being unreliable....just goes to show that Internet advice is hard to judge sometimes....obviously he has not had issues with either ( I have the Xds and have had some FTF but I still love it ). I'm sure their are people out there that will give just the opposite reports that the Defender is 100% reliable and love it. I'd like to get one in 9mm


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Defender reliability

I currently own a Defender in .45 and can offer a few suggestions. Mine is very partial to 185 grain projectiles with one or two 230`s thrown in. It works 100% of the time with Hornady Critical Defence/Duty or Winchester Silvertip. Avoid like the plague the Speer 200 grainers as it makes it a one-shot paperweight. Winchester White Box 230 grain works 98% or so of the time for plinking but I wouldn`t trust them for self defence. For more specific info look below.

Winchester Flat point 185 grain 150 fired 0 failures
Georgia Arms 185 grain 50 fired 0 failures
Hornady 185 grain XTP 80 fired 0 failures
Golden Saber 230 grain 20 fired 0 failures
Cor Bon 165 grain 20 fired 0 failures
Federal Hydra Shok 40 fired 0 failures

The rest that I`ve tried have met with different results and I wouldn`t trust the vast majority of them with my life but the above I feel comfortable with. YRMV.
 

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I have a older Colt Defender has served me well for several years . Has been reliable since day I bought . I carry with the Corbon 185gr DPX plus P. dealer has a new one in case. I keep eyeballing it Thinking on trading my Washington state Detonics in on it. . But had the Detonics a long time other than weight been a fine little pistol.
 
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