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Let me set this up for you before I ask my questions.
I currently have 4 handguns that could be carried but for various reasons do not quite measure up to what I want.
Those 4 are a Taurus snub 38 (currently out of service due to mechanical failure), a foreign made 9mm single stack single action, duty sized semi-auto, a Bersa Series 95 chambered in .380, and my NAA mini-magnum revolver. Now the NAA is always with me, but IMO should not be the primary carry gun. The size of the magnum framed revolver is perfect for carrying at all times though, so it is always there. The Bersa is likewise sized for convenient carry, but is a bit heavy for a .380. These two are the most carried of my CC guns. The Taurus, well lets just say the quality of the piece has caused it to be the least dependable of all of my guns. Very shocking considering the Bersa and an OLD Norinco 9mm semi-auto were purchased before I bought the Taurus, and both were fired more, and yet the revolver was the one to fail first.

So I want something the size of the Bersa, with the weight of the NAA. I want something more powerful than a .380, but as always it must be dead reliable.

What should I be looking at?? I'm not very recoil sensitive, I actually enjoy shooting my .44 Magnum, but will readily admit that is about the most recoil I care to deal with. Price is a consideration, I am willing to pay for quality.

What say you? What do you prefer, and why?
 

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what Eric said or a Colt new agent or defender 1911 platform in 45. Depends on your taste and ability entirely and we can't suggest your PERSONAL carry firearm for you.
 

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So I want something the size of the Bersa, with the weight of the NAA. I want something more powerful than a .380, but as always it must be dead reliable. Price is a consideration, I am willing to pay for quality.
Here is a search tool: Handgun Database search @ Genitron.com. You can search the results by OAL, weight, capacity. Useful for helping to narrow down some contemporary possibilities.

Some options I would consider if having similar criteria as you:

  • H&K P2000SK 9mm -- polymer. Utterly reliable.
  • CZ 2075 RAMI BD 9mm (decocker model; also available is a manual safety model) -- alloy.
  • Glock 19 or 26 9mm -- polymer.
  • Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact Pro 9mm -- alloy.
  • Bersa BPCC 9mm -- polymer.
  • SIG P232 .380ACP -- yes, it's a .380, but at sub-19oz and great size, it's worth considering.
  • Kahr K9, P9, CW9, CM9 or PM9 -- polymer single-stack, except for the K9 alloy.
  • STI polymer 1911, such as the Shadow or the Escort -- .45ACP or 9mm, depending. Light, compact.
  • Or, any decent revolver in the .357/.38 range, such as S&W 640, 442 or 60; Ruger LCR; or even a somewhat larger-framed sibling.
 

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Lots of pistols to choose from that could fit the bill. M&P compacts, Kahr CM/PM series, Sig 938, Ruger LC9, Beretta Nano, and my favorite the sub compact Glocks. Just get out and shop. Try to handle as many as you can.
 

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Up until last Fall I usually carried a S&W Mod. 39-2 or a S&W Mod. 60-15, 3", .357. I decided I wanted to try a SMALL semi-auto, & did some research. I've never owned a .380, so went to my "Cartridges of the World" book and found the most powerful .380 factory load (200 ft. lbs.) was less powerful than the least powerful 9mm factory load. (310 ft. lbs.) Did some more research and decided on a Ruger LC9. I'm very happy with this gun & if you're interested, go to Google or Yahoo, "video" and type in hickok45 LC9. After seeing the video, I went right out & bought one.
 

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I'm really new to handguns, but from what I've learned on the internet,,,,, if you don't carry a Glock and at least 2 extra magazines,,,,,,, you'll be dead by the end of the month.
So get a Glock (size or caliber doesn't matter, cuz they are "magic"), some mags, a couple of EDC knives, some pepper spray, a taser, a video camera, a voice recorder, 2 pitbulls and a bible and you should be able to fight your way through any scenario.
That's just what I've learned on the internet,,,, and it must be true,,, "cuz they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true"!
 

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So I want something the size of the Bersa, with the weight of the NAA. I want something more powerful than a .380, but as always it must be dead reliable.
There is no such thing. Forget it.
 

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I'm really new to handguns, but from what I've learned on the internet,,,,, if you don't carry a Glock and at least 2 extra magazines,,,,,,, you'll be dead by the end of the month.
I carry a Glock and 2 spare mags and I'm still alive, so what you have read on the internet must be true.

...and you are correct.....Glocks are to CCW civilians what the Wand is to Harry Potter. Pure magic. :image035:
 

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You want a smith and Wesson jframe. You may not realize it, but that is what you are really looking for.
 

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I like most any 2 to 4 inch Smith & Wesson K-Frame .38 Special or .357 Magnum revolver. The J-Frames are also ok.

Colt's Detective Special is a special favorite of mine. Only available used now, it is worth it to seek out a good one.

In automatics the full-sized Colt 1911 types are favored and I also really like the Browning Hi-Power.

I'm beginning to long for a Smith & Wesson N-Frame .44 Special with a 3 or 4 inch barrel for some silly reason. I'd enjoy figuring out a good way to carry it concealed and then put it to work.
 

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:aargh4:My much enjyed choice is a S&W M&P 40C. Lightweight, easy to conceal and very reliable.
Let me set this up for you before I ask my questions.
I currently have 4 handguns that could be carried but for various reasons do not quite measure up to what I want.
Those 4 are a Taurus snub 38 (currently out of service due to mechanical failure), a foreign made 9mm single stack single action, duty sized semi-auto, a Bersa Series 95 chambered in .380, and my NAA mini-magnum revolver. Now the NAA is always with me, but IMO should not be the primary carry gun. The size of the magnum framed revolver is perfect for carrying at all times though, so it is always there. The Bersa is likewise sized for convenient carry, but is a bit heavy for a .380. These two are the most carried of my CC guns. The Taurus, well lets just say the quality of the piece has caused it to be the least dependable of all of my guns. Very shocking considering the Bersa and an OLD Norinco 9mm semi-auto were purchased before I bought the Taurus, and both were fired more, and yet the revolver was the one to fail first.

So I want something the size of the Bersa, with the weight of the NAA. I want something more powerful than a .380, but as always it must be dead reliable.

What should I be looking at?? I'm not very recoil sensitive, I actually enjoy shooting my .44 Magnum, but will readily admit that is about the most recoil I care to deal with. Price is a consideration, I am willing to pay for quality.

What say you? What do you prefer, and why?
 

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1911 is my first suggestion. Then a smaller J or K framed steel revolver. Then following that jump on the bandwagon and look into some plastic like the "wonder-glocks" or m&p. Maybe a shield if you can find one. Kahr cw9 or ruger lc9 are also both very concealable packages as well.
 

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very interesting responses...The Springfield XDs in 45, the Ruger LC9, and the Khar are what I'm considering, based on weight and power and size. Ammo availability locally currently favors the .45 oddly enough.

Thanks for playing along.
 

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very interesting responses...The Springfield XDs in 45, the Ruger LC9, and the Khar are what I'm considering, based on weight and power and size. Ammo availability locally currently favors the .45 oddly enough...
If you like the Kahrs, and favor a .45, then definitely have a look at the CW45.
 

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You want a cc gun with the weight of the NAA. Are you serious? In case you are, weight aside, try the XDs. That is what I just bought. Fits in my pocket and with the extended 7 round mag gives me the same capacity of most 1911's in a smaller and lighter package. I have bad hips and can carry this gun comfortable. Most of my guns are pocket guns. My Sig P928 carries hot 9mm DPX loads. My LCR carries .38 +P or mild .357 mag rounds. I use Speer Gold Dot 230 gr. Short Barrel ammo in my XDs after checking out the results in ballistic gel. I can also recommend the Sig P938, Kahr CM9, and M&P Shield. I have carried all these guns at one time or another and they were reliable and carried easy.

I will never understand why some people ask strangers what gun to get. Guns are like shoes, you need to try them on for yourself to see if they fit. It is easy enough to search and find a list of small carry guns and from there check them out for yourself. Gun forums have too many people giving opinions of guns they never owned or shot. Hard to tell which opinions are just opinions and which are informed opinions. My friend only likes guns with shiny slides and that is all he recommends to others. Anyone taking his advice is nuts. :)
 

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ruger lcr, SW shield, ruger LC9, Kahr CM/CW9, Glock 26/27, Bersa thunder pro alloy, Any of the baby sigs.....
 

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S&W Shield, XDs, Nano
If any of those feel perfect go for it.

I personally hate CM9, LC9, for several reasons that I'm sure 100 people on here would all rebutt but you may think they feel awesome.
 
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