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With the Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend rolling around again this year I have started searching for the perfect 1911 for me. I like the 1911 but the ones I have owned in the past have had the standard GI style grip safety which my shooting hand did not agree with after about 100 rounds. I vowed my next 1911 would be a Springfield Loaded or equivalent. It must be a full size all steel model. I have looked closely at Kimber but I keep hearing mixed reports about them and am not sure I'd be willing to put down 900+ on a gun that may or may not work reliably. I understand they require a 500 round break in period which IMO is insane for a gun retailing at that kind of money.

Other brands I have considered are,

Taurus
Smith & Wesson
Colt

I am still after a Springfield Armory Loaded model in stainless but they are extremely difficult to find locally. I would much rather support the local guys versus shopping online and having it sent to my dealer. Most of the ones I find locally are the brands I listed above. My budget is around 1,000.

At this point I am leaning towards S&W or waiting until I find a Springfield Loaded here in town because you know what they say,

"Good things come to those who wait for it!"
 

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I've owned a few Kimbers in each size and the only one that didn't give me a problem out of the box was the full size. The smaller ones (at least for me), all had a stove-pipe stoppage at the rate of about 1 in a hundred. Great looking guns and spot on accurate but I wasn't impressed with the reliability.
Guns are kinda like women....the sexy pretty ones are high maintenance and can be unreliable. The dull ones don't give you any grief and are always there when you need them! :image035:
 

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First of all, there is nothing wrong with Kimbers.

I would not buy one though because you can get equivlent performance out of a pistol like a Springfield Loaded. If you want anything better than that I would go with something more custom like a Les Baer. After that, the sky's the limit.
 

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I had a Kimber Warrior that was highly reliable.

However, let me suggest that you look at the HK 45. It's not a 1911, but the ergos are similar, and it shoots nice. I just bought one, and I'll be doing a write up in a bit (need to get some pics first).

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God I hope not! I'm about to drop a chunk of change on one.... I'll take the chance I guess. Worse case scenario for me is, I'll have to take it to my Gunsmith for a good tuning up. I'm thinking those tight puppies just need a good breaking in process, at least I'm hoping that's all it'll need. I thought about Colt as a possibility too. Either way, there's a 1911 in my future.:danceban:
 

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"I've owned a few Kimbers in each size and the only one that didn't give me a problem out of the box was the full size. The smaller ones (at least for me), all had a stove-pipe stoppage at the rate of about 1 in a hundred. Great looking guns and spot on accurate but I wasn't impressed with the reliability.
Guns are kinda like women....the sexy pretty ones are high maintenance and can be unreliable. The dull ones don't give you any grief and are always there when you need them! "



That actually has truth to it LOL!

Two years ago I would have told you I hated Glocks but have grown to love them for what they're made for. They may not look like much but they got it where it counts! The 1911s I have owned got dirty much quicker and they took longer to clean thoroughly.

You're right about guns being kind of like women. The more attractive ones tend to be more picky and higher maintenance than the not so attractive ones that don't care how they look and will stick with you until the end.

At least with guns you can put silencers on them!

I just feel like I need to have a good 1911 in my collection but there are so many brands to choose from.
 

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Two years ago I would have told you I hated Glocks but have grown to love them for what they're made for. They may not look like much but they got it where it counts! The 1911s I have owned got dirty much quicker and they took longer to clean thoroughly.

You're right about guns being kind of like women. The more attractive ones tend to be more picky and higher maintenance than the not so attractive ones that don't care how they look and will stick with you until the end.

At least with guns you can put silencers on them!

I just feel like I need to have a good 1911 in my collection but there are so many brands to choose from.

I have one gun that I take to the Bar-B-Q (Kimber Eclipse) and another when driving through the "hood" (XD-9, SW686).:wink:
 

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I have a Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II with the 3" barrel that's been perfect from day one. I'm not sure on the 500 round break-in period. Mine did seem to function a little smoother or at least seemed to feel a little better around 200 rounds but it could have been my imagination because I had been reading about the long break in period also. I have shot a number of Kimbers and haven't found one that I didn't like. I wouldn't hesitate buying one. Of course though I think there are a lot of very nice 1911s out there and my Dan Wesson CBOB is one of my favorites. It runs about $1000 but you may have trouble finding one.
Look around and see what you like and go for it. I love the 1911 and I think you will be pleased also.
 

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I have a Wilson Combat CQB Compact, Kimber Ultra CDP II and a G30SF Glock all .45 ACP. I find I carry my Glock more often than the others, not because they are unreliable, they are very reliable, but my Glock holds 10+1 and is super accurate. Best $500.00 gun Ive ever seen.
 

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I just bought a 4" Carry Pro and in the first 250 rounds it hung just out of battery twice, once at round 74 and once at round 186. I had to give the slide a light tap each time and it jumped into battery. For a new 1911 fitted as well as this one is and running 3 different loadings of HB's and 2 different HP's "I" don't consider it a problem.

I was shooting WW white box HB's with the hang up @ round 74. The WW is very dirty and the feed ramp was sooty. At round 76 switched and fired 50 rounds of UMC HB's and 59 rounds of my hand loads (WW230 gr.HB's/AA #5 powder/ww primer) for 109 rounds with various amounts loaded in the mag 1-8 with no stoppage of any kind.
Round 186 I went to WW white box 230 gr.HP's and the slide hung just out of battery. Again just a tap sent it home and the next 44 rounds ran fine. The last 20 rounds were Fed. 230 gr. HydraShoks and as with any .45 auto loader I have shot or owned they just functioned flawlessly for 63 rounds non stop.

I currently Have a 5" Taurus, 4" Kimber and a USP .45c. and have owned a Colt Gold Cup and a Colt Lt. weight Commander. ALL took some degree (200+ rounds) of break in with the Gold Cup being the worst! The Taurus is a "good" gun but it is no match for the kimber QC wise. If I had to live and fight in a war zone/combat conditions daily I would not reach for anything but my HK.
That's my $.02 worth.
 

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I have a Kimber Raptor Pro that is almost at the 500 round mark, and I have only had one malfunction and it was in the first couple of mags that went through it. It is the most accurate pistol I own too, so no complaints here.
 

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Well, I'd do it a little different. With a budget of $1000, I'd get that 1911, but it would be a less known brand, lide the Metroarms American Classic (about $450) AND something like the XD9-sub-compact. The change left would go for a set of Hogue grips and hex grip screws for the 1911. The factory grips weren't satisfactory.

With all that said, you can't go wrong with the Kimber. It's a fine weapon. I would love to be able to afford one.
 

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Nothing wrong with the Kimber as far as I know, but it sounds as if you have your eye's and heart set on the Springer. I'd either wait until you are able to find one, or have a dealer there order it for you. JMO
 

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One positive experience

I only own one Kimber 1911, and all my others are Colts. I bought the Kimber Pro CDP used - it had maybe 2000 rounds through it - and have put another 2000 through it myself. So it is now a well broken-in gun. It runs perfectly and never gives me any feeding or ejection problems. I'd buy another Kimber.

 

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I am still after a Springfield Armory Loaded model in stainless but they are extremely difficult to find locally. I would much rather support the local guys versus shopping online and having it sent to my dealer. Most of the ones I find locally are the brands I listed above. My budget is around 1,000.
QUOTE SUBNINE

DO your research on all models you consider; AND then look at some you have not considered.
then when you decide, based on whatever objectives and standards the chosen weapon (S) are to have, {must be reliable for CC, must fit my hand like a glove,} ETC,,, then go to your fav. local gunshop and have them start looking.
also start looking for yourself,(gunbroker.com),and so on.

Buy the best you can afford, and you will probably never be dissapointed!!!
P S the Springfield armory sonds like a wonderful choice though!!

WASHINGTON DID’NT USE HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH TO DEFEAT THE BRITISH, HE SHOT THEM

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Two years ago I would have told you I hated Glocks but have grown to love them for what they're made for. They may not look like much but they got it where it counts! The 1911s I have owned got dirty much quicker and they took longer to clean thoroughly.

I just feel like I need to have a good 1911 in my collection but there are so many brands to choose from.
I think you have your answer right there. You can buy two Glocks for $1000, and have reliable out-of-the-box guns. Check out the handgun reliability polls that were done a few weeks back - Kimbers can be hit or miss.:gah:

If you really insist on a 1911, I have heard nothing but good reports about Rock ISLAND (sorry for the typo!). They may not be pretty, but they seem to work and the price is reasonable.:yup:

As for me - I am DONE with finicky guns, or those that need a "break in period." No thanks.:mad:

Someone on another forum had a tag line "Kimbers are what you show your friends, Glocks are what you show your enemies." Very true! My guns are tools - I don't buy guns to look pretty or to show off. They just need to work - every time.

Glock.:image035:
 

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I have owned three Kimbers; two full size, and a compact.
All gave me troubles, and I finally sold the full size ones. I kept the compact and after sending it off to a gunsmith it is now reliable. The Kimber factory was never able to get it fixed.

I much prefer SA because of the CS, but have had to send the two I have back once. SA did fix the problems, and also paid the shipping which Kimber did not.

My experience is not necessarily typical, but it is my experience. I sure like my SA Compact LW SS, but I don't think they are made anymore. That is a pity in my view.

SA customer is superb.

Regards,
Jerry
 

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I own four Kimbers.....one full size in 10mm (Eclipse), two Pro-Carry HDIIs (a .45 & .38super) & a Ultra in .45.

All had short breakin times...under 100 rounds. Even though they know have 1000s thru them.

Good guns for the money. Kimber led the way in making 'custom' options standard on 1911s. Other manufacturers like Springfield followed their lead.
 

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I have a Kimber Pro CDP II. It has been flawless. I own five 1911s (Colt O1918, Colt Series 70, Kimber CDP Pro II, Springfield GI, Nighthawk GRP Recon) and they have all been 100% reliable. Maybe I'm just lucky.
 
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